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 Progressive Collision Service Center - Coon Rapids 
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 Post subject: Progressive Collision Service Center - Coon Rapids
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:30 pm 
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Not sure what to make of this one. I saw this sign on the door to the Progressive Insurance facility in Coon Rapids....haven't seen this variety yet and am interested in your thoughts.

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"Unless otherwise authorized by law, no person shall possess, have under the person's control, convey, or attempt to convey a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance onto these premises."


I'm not a lawyer...but aren't permit holders authorized by law? So what the heck does "Unless otherwise authorized..." mean?


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 Post subject: Re: Progressive Collision Service Center - Coon Rapids
PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:07 pm 
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DrSIG226 wrote:
"Unless otherwise authorized by law, no person shall possess, have under the person's control, convey, or attempt to convey a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance onto these premises."

I would like a picture of the sign if anyone could get it. Sounds like a misleading sign that would fool most (common; non-TCCF'er) permit holders.
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I'm not a lawyer...but aren't permit holders authorized by law?

Depends on who you ask. If you ask the post office, they claim we are not authorized ( :wink: ). Yes, we are authorized by law to carry our firearms.
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So what the heck does "Unless otherwise authorized..." mean?

It's just one way to word a statement. 'You cannot have a weapon, unless authorized by law'.

My problem with these types of signs, and even the Hennepin County signs they've posted is: The only reason the signs went up in the first place was because of the permit to carry. So, why keep them up if you exclude permit holders on that sign? It's like putting up a sign that says "you're not allowed to commit a crime here." No shit sherlock.

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Pakrat put it well. The sign says that criminal acts are prohibited. Well, duh.

It's a sign intended, I think, to placate the nervous nellies, not to piss off permit holders.

Treat it like you would any other sign. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Progressive Collision Service Center - Coon Rapids
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:51 am 
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Pakrat wrote:
I would like a picture of the sign if anyone could get it. Sounds like a misleading sign that would fool most (common; non-TCCF'er) permit holders.


I have one on my phone...can't figure out how to send it to someplace where I can post it.


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DrSIG226 wrote:
Pakrat wrote:
I would like a picture of the sign if anyone could get it. Sounds like a misleading sign that would fool most (common; non-TCCF'er) permit holders.


I have one on my phone...can't figure out how to send it to someplace where I can post it.
Find a teenager :P

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 Post subject: Re: Progressive Collision Service Center - Coon Rapids
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:43 am 
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matt160 wrote:
DrSIG226 wrote:
Pakrat wrote:
I would like a picture of the sign if anyone could get it. Sounds like a misleading sign that would fool most (common; non-TCCF'er) permit holders.


I have one on my phone...can't figure out how to send it to someplace where I can post it.
Find a teenager :P

i'm the crotchety old b*stard that says "Get the hell off my lawn!"...i don't think any of them that I know would be kind.... ;)

i just copied the text of the sign from my picture into the original post...


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:44 pm 
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DrSIG226 wrote:
Pakrat wrote:
I would like a picture of the sign if anyone could get it. Sounds like a misleading sign that would fool most (common; non-TCCF'er) permit holders.


I have one on my phone...can't figure out how to send it to someplace where I can post it.


E-mail the picture to yourself.

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The State Farm drive-in claim center in Burnsville was properly posted when I was there last May. I ignored it and nobody had a problem.


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