My favorite non-posted posting
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: My favorite non-posted posting Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:45 pm |
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ttousi
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:52 pm |
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We should have a section just for signs .......I just posted one and will do another when I have the camera along. Some (not this one) just don't make sense or are "feel good"
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JDR
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:00 pm |
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Does anyone know if the Minnesota Science Museum is a government sponsored agency? Or, in other words an entity that can post?
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Jeff Boucher-Zamzo
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:45 pm |
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the ones at block E are nice looking, totally unlawful, but somone definetely put time into the etched glass look.
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cobb
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Post subject: Re: My favorite non-posted posting Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:15 pm |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: Seen at Fairview Riverside Hospital, which does NOT post:
Hey, I kind of think it is a touchy feely type of posting. Ya know, the feel good type of thing.
Now don't we all feel safer?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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Srigs
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Post subject: Re: My favorite non-posted posting Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:24 pm |
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So EVERYONE MUST CARRY correct!!!
That would make it a Violence Free Zone!
Andrew Rothman wrote: Seen at Fairview Riverside Hospital, which does NOT post:
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Brewman
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Post subject: Re: My favorite non-posted posting Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:22 am |
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Srigs wrote: So EVERYONE MUST CARRY correct!!!
That's exactly the way I see it. Just doing MY part to contribute to my safety.
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Pakrat
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:48 am |
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Just to be literal: The sign doesn't address guns at all. It addresses violence, and of course guns are not violent. They are inanimate objects.
Q: Is using a gun in self-defense, violence?
The sign is definately a feel-good measure for people (lefties).
EDIT- Is it also a disclaimer, so they don't have to have as much security personel?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:58 am |
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Pakrat wrote: Just to be literal: The sign doesn't address guns at all. It addresses violence, and of course guns are not violent. They are inanimate objects.
Q: Is using a gun in self-defense, violence?
Only if it's done correctly.
More seriously, most of the time, it's threatened violence -- as you know, most self-defense uses of firearms don't involve shooting. The rest of the time, of course, it is violence -- which just goes to show that violence isn't bad in and of itself; it's the appropriateness of it that's properly the issue.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:23 am |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:11 pm |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: Maybe I wasn't clear enough: I like this sign. They expect cooperation and personal responsibility, not zero-tolerance baloney, to help keep the place safe.
I heartily applaud Fairview for this stance.
It seems entirely superfluous to me; was I to assume that Fairview was not committed to providing a safe environment, free from violence for patients?
I also wonder if this doesn't increase their liability in the event that someone were to be on the receiving end of violence -- it sounds like they're promising/guaranteeing freedom from violence.
All in all, it's hard for me not to see it as one of those touchy/feely human potential movement statements, and about as meaningful as Big Money, Inc. promoting "peace on earth and good will to men."
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Prolix
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:46 pm |
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I'm pretty sure that a man with a knife stalking up on my unconcious body, intent on cutting me, is violent... but it has happened to me at Fairview--in one of the surgical rooms, of course. I guess since that was done responsibly, it is OK.
And yes, the sign advocates having a permit to carry to me. Deadly force is a huge individual power, and it demands a commensurately large amount of responsibility on the part of that individual. So in a way, we would be obeying the sign moreso than anyone else does. Ta-da!
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keith
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Post subject: Re: My favorite non-posted posting Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:40 pm |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: Seen at Fairview Riverside Hospital, which does NOT post:
Yeah. I saw that sign alot when I used to take my dad down there to see his oncologist back in 2001. (fun times)
I was at least able to chuckle a little when I wheeled my dad past the sign with a Glock concealed on my hip. I felt safe anyway.
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