Subd. 17. Posting; trespass. (a) A person carrying a firearm on or about his or her person
or clothes under a permit or otherwise who remains at a private establishment knowing that the
operator of the establishment or its agent has made a reasonable request that firearms not be
brought into the establishment may be ordered to leave the premises. A person who fails to
leave when so requested is guilty of a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not
exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this subdivision
is not subject to forfeiture.
(b) As used in this subdivision, the terms in this paragraph have the meanings given.
(1) "Reasonable request" means a request made under the following circumstances:
(i) the requester has prominently posted a conspicuous sign at every entrance to the
establishment containing the following language: "(INDICATE IDENTITY OF OPERATOR)
BANS GUNS IN THESE PREMISES."; or
(ii) the requester or the requester's agent personally informs the person that guns are
prohibited in the premises and demands compliance.
(2) "Prominently" means readily visible and within four feet laterally of the entrance with the
bottom of the sign at a height of four to six feet above the floor.
(3) "Conspicuous" means lettering in black arial typeface at least 1-1/2 inches in height
against a bright contrasting background that is at least 187 square inches in area.
(4) "Private establishment" means a building, structure, or portion thereof that is owned,
leased, controlled, or operated by a nongovernmental entity for a nongovernmental purpose.
(c) The owner or operator of a private establishment may not prohibit the lawful carry or
possession of firearms in a parking facility or parking area.
(d) This subdivision does not apply to private residences. The lawful possessor of a private
residence may prohibit firearms, and provide notice thereof, in any lawful manner.
(e) A landlord may not restrict the lawful carry or possession of firearms by tenants or
their guests.
(f) Notwithstanding any inconsistent provisions in section 609.605, this subdivision sets
forth the exclusive criteria to notify a permit holder when otherwise lawful firearm possession is
not allowed in a private establishment and sets forth the exclusive penalty for such activity.
(g) This subdivision does not apply to:
(1) an active licensed peace officer; or
(2) a security guard acting in the course and scope of employment.

Subd. 23. Exclusivity. This section sets forth the complete and exclusive criteria and
procedures for the issuance of permits to carry and establishes their nature and scope. No sheriff,
police chief, governmental unit, government official, government employee, or other person or
body acting under color of law or governmental authority may change, modify, or supplement
these criteria or procedures, or limit the exercise of a permit to carry.

Hi Gregg,

My name is <montana_redneck>. I've talked to you a few times at school and dance class. I have daughters XXX and YYY. I think XXX and <your daughter> were in the same class this year. Hopefully that gives you a little reference of who I am.

While taking the girls to swimming lessons at the Becker Community Center last week, I noticed a sign to the far right-hand side of the inside doors which stated "Becker Community Center Bans guns in these premises". I had never noticed this sign before, but when I inquired at the desk, the lady said it has been up for a long time. Do you know the history of when and why it was posted?

Since you are on the city council and on the community center advisory committee, I thought I would email you first. I believe that the sign mentioned above is not in compliance with MN Statute 624.714, which can be found here: https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/sta ... id=624.714

Subd. 17 (4) states:

(4) "Private establishment" means a building, structure, or portion thereof that is owned,
leased, controlled, or operated by a nongovernmental entity for a nongovernmental purpose.

Since the Becker Community Center is operated by the City, I do not think that it would be considered a "private establishment".

Also, Subd. 23 says:

Subd. 23. Exclusivity. This section sets forth the complete and exclusive criteria and
procedures for the issuance of permits to carry and establishes their nature and scope. No sheriff,
police chief, governmental unit, government official, government employee, or other person or
body acting under color of law or governmental authority may change, modify, or supplement
these criteria or procedures, or limit the exercise of a permit to carry.



Since it appears that the sign is not in compliance with MN Statute 624.714, I am suggesting that it be removed.
Thank you in advance for taking time to look into this matter, and please give me a call if you have any questions.


Sincerely,

<montana_redneck>
xxx-xxx-xxxx

Perfect. Often the soft approach works well.

I believe that the sign mentioned above is not in compliance with MN Statute 624.714, which can be found here

Can you confirm that this sign does not apply to permit holders? According to MN Statute 624.714, which can be found here...

Thank you for the email, I am guessing this sign went up when the law was first introduced, If my memory serves me correctly there were a number of churches that put up signs and ultimately were forced to change once the law was clarified. I spoke with the director at the community center and he says it was there when he took over about 1.5 years ago. I will run this by our police chief for clarification and get back to you on any decisions.

I received a response yesterday:

I received a response yesterday:

I will run this by our police chief for clarification

It should be brought to the attention of the city attorney

Asking a cop about the law is like asking a butcher about open heart surgery.

Tommy: Hey, I'll tell you what. You can take a good look at a butcher's ass by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?

Mr. Brady: What? I'm failing to make the connection here son.

Tommy: No, I mean, you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butcher's ass, but then..no. It's gotta be your bull.

Richard: Wow.

Tommy: Here's the deal. If I want you..

Richard: You have derailed.

Tommy: Shut up Richard.

Mr. Brady: Boy, I'm really at a loss for words here.

Tommy: Forget it, I quit, I can't do this anymore, man. My head's about to explode. My whole life sucks. I don't know what I'm doing, I don't know where I'm going. My dad just died. We just killed Bambi. I'm out here getting my ass kicked and every time I drive down the road I wanna jerk the wheel INTO A BRIDGE ABUTMENT.