Anyone interested in another steel shoot
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A Brit in MN
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:37 pm |
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Widge wrote: macphisto wrote: Are holster draws involved? If so, I'm guessing my IWB might not work.
Sorry, I'm just full of questions. There were no holster draws involved last time, but you will need one to put your gun in at the end of the string.
Mac, did you get the package with your XD. If so, the holster and the mag carrier will work just great.
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Selurcspi
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:17 pm |
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"If you expect the police to always be able to protect you, why are the ones who show up at crimes called 'detectives' instead of 'defenders'? Detectives try to find a criminal after they've committed a crime."
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hammAR
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:40 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:54 pm Posts: 1941 Location: N 44°56.621` W 093°11.256 (St Paul)
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Great job putting this together again......Thanks!
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macphisto
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:29 pm |
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A Brit in MN wrote: Widge wrote: macphisto wrote: Are holster draws involved? If so, I'm guessing my IWB might not work.
Sorry, I'm just full of questions. There were no holster draws involved last time, but you will need one to put your gun in at the end of the string. Mac, did you get the package with your XD. If so, the holster and the mag carrier will work just great.
My XD came with the gear, which was a big selling point for me. I guess now I'll finally have a chance to use it. Really looking forward to trying steel shooting for my first time and meeting you folks.
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A Brit in MN
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:13 am |
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Bring the loader doo hicky too. It'll save some thumb wear, ear protection and shooting glasses and a hat. Sunblock water lots of ammo, sense of humour..............cash..........did I miss anything?
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:42 am |
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Selurcspi
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:22 am |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: Last time's format was fine, but I'd actually much rather work from a holster.
I know we didn't last time `cause a few people didn't bring one, but since we can announce it in advance, let's.
Andrew,
My only reservation in working from the holster is that the less skilled could pose a safety problem. Anyone who has an IPSC or IDPA training class should know the drill, but those without that training I would prefer we start at the Cooper ready.
I would be prepared to hold a short class before we start to bring neophytes up to speed on the safety concerns and have some pre-shoot dry drills.
IPSC or IDPA clasification cards required show the completed training seems reasonable.
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"If you expect the police to always be able to protect you, why are the ones who show up at crimes called 'detectives' instead of 'defenders'? Detectives try to find a criminal after they've committed a crime."
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Widge
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:51 pm |
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Selurcspi wrote: Andrew Rothman wrote: Last time's format was fine, but I'd actually much rather work from a holster.
I know we didn't last time `cause a few people didn't bring one, but since we can announce it in advance, let's. Andrew, My only reservation in working from the holster is that the less skilled could pose a safety problem. Anyone who has an IPSC or IDPA training class should know the drill, but those without that training I would prefer we start at the Cooper ready. I would be prepared to hold a short class before we start to bring neophytes up to speed on the safety concerns and have some pre-shoot dry drills. IPSC or IDPA clasification cards required show the completed training seems reasonable.
How about Po-Leece ID?
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Selurcspi
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:15 pm |
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Widge wrote: How about Po-Leece ID?
I don't know, are you trained to use a holster.......LOL
Seriously though, and I don't mean to cast aspersions, LEOs typically make more of the rooky mistakes when they begin shooting competitively than ordinary neophytes.
20 years of watching new IPSC shooters as an RO.
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:22 pm |
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[quote="Selurcspi"]I don't mean to cast aspersions, LEOs typically make more of the rooky mistakes when they begin shooting competitively than ordinary neophytes./quote]
I've heard much the same from 2 or 3 other RO's and several people who shoot IDPA /IPSC.
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Widge
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:45 pm |
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plblark wrote: Selurcspi wrote: I don't mean to cast aspersions, LEOs typically make more of the rooky mistakes when they begin shooting competitively than ordinary neophytes./quote]
I've heard much the same from 2 or 3 other RO's and several people who shoot IDPA /IPSC.
I wasn't aware we were shooting ISPC, USPSA or IDPA.
I'm amazed some days how I manage to survive a shift without shooting myself or someone else.
FWIW, I've been qualifying from the holster against a timer for the past 4 years. I've shot a couple of USPSA matches, but I'm not a member of any of the organizations. Not to cast aspersions (I love the way people say that, then merrily cast away regardless) I've also seen some crap gunhandling amongst the so-called 'experten' (not anyone on here), so let's not be living in glass houses here, anybody can screw up.
My 2 cents: If we are going to shoot from the holster, it's going to unfairly penalize the 'neophytes' amongst us. We should keep it as it is, from an unholstered start.
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hammAR
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:53 pm |
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Widge wrote: I'm amazed some days how I manage to survive a shift without shooting myself or someone else.
That's because you don't carry a Glock...
Just kidding Widge, and yes I know the position.......
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mostlylawabidingcitizen
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:36 pm |
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hammAR wrote: Widge wrote: I'm amazed some days how I manage to survive a shift without shooting myself or someone else. That's because you don't carry a Glock... Just kidding Widge, and yes I know the position....... .
Oh NO! You don't mean....
- Man! They teach you everything in the Marines????
Mostly-
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hammAR
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:46 pm |
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Beaucoup Dinki-Dau - Sin Loi .........................
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:53 pm |
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Widge wrote: I wasn't aware we were shooting ISPC, USPSA or IDPA. I'm amazed some days how I manage to survive a shift without shooting myself or someone else. [...] My 2 cents: If we are going to shoot from the holster, it's going to unfairly penalize the 'neophytes' amongst us. We should keep it as it is, from an unholstered start.
The intent was not to cast aspersions but to lend credence to the safety policy set. If we want to set and be sure of a safety policy, it makes sense to me to have a single standard and method.
I certainly didn't intend to give offense.
Your comment about a level playing field makes sense. The flip side would be qualifying anyone who may want to try holster work against the clock in a supervised, safe environment. This would seem like a great opportunity to learn a good safe holster method, practice it, get some tips and hints, and gain some competence.
Man, I'm more and more sad to miss this event.
good luck and safe shooting.
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