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diamondsj
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Post subject: State FOREST carry Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:57 pm |
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I did the search on here and am still not clear as to whether I can or can't carry in a state forest. It appears that I can, but then I read where I can't in or within 200 feet of a campsite?
Can someone please clarify for me? We're heading to a MN state forest this weekend and if someone has a clarification on this, I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:07 pm |
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Carry is ONLY prohibited where state law says it is. Carry in state, county and city parks, forests and nature preserves cannot be forbidden.
National parks are forbidden under federal regulation; that is likely to change very soon. Carry in national forests is not prohibited.
_________________ * NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.
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Lenny7
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Post subject: Re: State FOREST carry Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:28 pm |
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diamondsj wrote: I did the search on here and am still not clear as to whether I can or can't carry in a state forest. It appears that I can, but then I read where I can't in or within 200 feet of a campsite?
Can you tell us where you saw this 200 foot rule? without knowing where it came from, I wonder if it's the rule with regard to uncased firearms when hunting in state forests, which would not apply to carry permit holders.
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diamondsj
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:10 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:02 pm Posts: 87 Location: waaaay west of the cities
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The 200 foot thing was in the search I did...it was referencing a MN Rule or Federal Rule or DNR Regs...not sure which, but I searched under "State Forest Carry" and came up with about 13 threads addressing it.
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Lenny7
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:13 pm |
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Here's the 200' rule:
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_forests/rules.html#hunting
Quote: Hunting, trapping, and fishing
Hunting, trapping, and fishing in state forests is allowed during the appropriate season and with the correct license. State game refuges within state forests are closed to hunting unless listed as open. State forests do contain private holdings within their boundaries, many of which are signed "no hunting." Hunting on private land within a state forest is subject to state trespass laws. Maps are available to aid in the identification of these areas and help you to plan your hunt around them.
Firearms
* Firearms may be discharged in compliance with the law on forest lands not posted closed to firearms discharge. * Shooting ranges, where designated, have special rules. Observe postings on site. * Firearms must be unloaded and cased bows must be unstrung and cased while in or within 200 feet of a forest recreation area (campground, day-use area, parking area, etc.). Exception: During seasons open for hunting, a person may carry an unloaded, uncased firearm or strung bow from a forest recreation area to hunt outside of the area. More about hunting in state forests
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:16 pm |
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from here: http://www.twincitiescarry.com/forum/vi ... +carry+200
Quote: I talked with Parks, they allow people with conceal carry permits to possess handguns with a valid permit. Forestry's interpretation would be the same for our facilities while in or within 200 feet of a forest recreation area. We have no restriction on forest land outside of recreation areas, unless posted otherwise. It should be noted that rule 6100.0800 still applies to firearms other than pistols, bows and other weapons as mentioned in the rule. Curt Cogan Forestry Enforcement Coordinator MN Dept. of Natural Resources 1601 Minnesota Drive Brainerd, MN 56401 Office 218-833-8697 Fax 218-828-2431 Suellen Rau, Supervisor Information Center MN Department of Natural Resources Bureau of Information & Education 500 Lafayette Rd St. Paul, MN 55155-4040 651/296-6157 Suellen.rau@dnr.state.mn.us
Parsing the convoluted grammar, the 200' rule is for people without Permits to carry firearms. The DNR recognizes they are preempted from prohibiting persons with carry permits. Forestry recognizes this as well. Personally, I'd avoid long arm carry even under the conditions where it's legal. CO's often have large areas to cover as do State Forest rangers and having them come out for a man with rifle call would be a waste of everyone's effort.
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Last edited by plblark on Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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diamondsj
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:37 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:02 pm Posts: 87 Location: waaaay west of the cities
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Thanks for the clarification!!
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