56,975 Minnesota permit holders
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: 56,975 Minnesota permit holders  Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:29 pm |
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Crossposted from my blog...
Quote:  I get a monthly report from the Minnesota Department of Public Safety on the number of permit holders in the state. This month, the number is 56,975.  That's an increase of 921 from last month, and a new high. Shortly after posting the new stats on madfi.org, I got this anonymous instant message: Quote: If there is 507000 carry permit holders then almost half of those are owned by job related carry holders such as dunbar and garda. I assume that the person was trying, in a semi-literate way, to say that half of the almost 57,000 permits are issued to security guards. Not really. Prior to the shall-issue law, there were about 12,000 carry permits in the state, a large number of which were probably security guards in the metro. But even if every one of them were, then that 12,000 would only represent 20% of the current permits. So, no, anonymous correspondent, the vast majority of those permits are law-abiding citizens interested in personal protection and exercising their civil rights. But thanks for writing.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:06 pm |
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That's great! My thought is that January will show an increase then the rate will slow as the new Obama-provoked permit holders turn in their paperwork.
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Srigs
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:22 pm |
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There should be 5 more for the End of Jan numbers 
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Rem700
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:29 pm |
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507000 would be great 
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JimC
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:49 pm |
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Wow, Total is Way under what everyone expected by now. I'm surprised.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:43 pm |
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You can add one more once! I take the class this next Saturday the 10th!
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Nickel pkg
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:14 am |
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You can expect the line to go up pretty fast again starting this summer as there will be no one "not renewing" for another year. 
70,000+ by 06/2010?
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Saunassa
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:17 am |
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i had not seen this graph until a short time ago. it surprises me that when i got mine back in october '03 so i would have been in that first 12,000 or so and here we are 5 years later and there are only 57K permits issued.
when this passed all i heard from co-workers was that everyone and their brother would be carrying in just a couple of years. That there would be 100K or more guns being carried and it would be wild west times again.
I guess this proves that people are taking the right to carry seriously and actually thinking about it and getting appropriate training before getting a permit.
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JimC
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:24 am |
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Most gun owners are hunters and don't feel a need to carry. And with possible lawsuits, lawyer cost, the training, permit cost etc, most don't think it's worth it
Most are concerned with home protection instead and keep a gun for that purpose
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:21 pm |
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My wife is looking at getting hers this summer. And there are a few co-workers who have looking into taking Joel's class soon.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:30 pm |
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So much for the line we've been hearing that a lot of carry permit holders weren't renewing their permits.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:50 pm |
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If you watch the trend line on the graph, there are a signifigant number of initial permit holders who didn't renew. enough that they offset the std new permit holders for 3 or more months.
Now we're past their hurdle. I expect some renewals to decide it's not worth it for them any more but I think we've seen the early adopters who decided not to sink another ~$200 into something they don't do much anyway.
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Last edited by plblark on Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:24 pm |
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Why must you counter my arguments with facts and logic??
Seriously, you're a buzzkill
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:47 pm |
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OTOH, there should be an effect in the 5-year shadow of the "interregnum". No old permits will be expiring, but there will be new ones issued. Expect the slope to inflect upwards.
Also looking at the graph, bear in mind that the first 12 months had about 1000 permits per month from the old law expire.
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