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And Roseville is in which county? :wink:


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And Roseville is in which county? :wink:


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If you're suggesting bad faith there, I'll agree. That said, there are SOs run by people I respect -- Hutton, say, or Stanek -- where I strongly suspect that there are higher priorities than investigating incidents to see if they constitute documented DGUs. Once a good, service-oriented department has determined that X didn't commit a crime, the right thing to do is probably to move on to other matters, particularly in a time of tight budges and heavy demand on limited resources.

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The age and sex of permit holders was given but ONLY by zip code...I'd like to get an idea of the age of permit holders....In Texas it's roughly true that

50% of permit holders were over 40
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40% were over 50.

I'm assuming it's comparable in Minnesota..

Permit holders are OLD FAT WHITE GUYS True? or False?

Stats are there how can I analyze them to get the answer?

Is there a page I missed in the BCA report?


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You have to special request the data in a spreadsheet. They've got the programming set up to do it. I know, because I nagged them for a month last year to get it.

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...or do some tricky PDF extraction.

For permits issued in the time period of this report:

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Male      18619   90%   
Female      2171   10%   


21-29      2765   13.30%   
30-39      3278   15.77%   
40-49      4432   21.32%   
50-59      5269   25.34%   
60-69      3820   18.37%   
70-79      1106   5.32%   
80-89      118   0.57%   
90-99      2   0.01%   



Almost exactly half of the permits issued in this report were to ages 50 or greater, half to ages 49 or lower.

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If anyone wants the cleaned, raw data to do their own analysis, it's here:
http://www.madfi.org/post/2008_report_analysis.xls

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For currently active permits, whenever issued:

Code:
total    58801   

Male   52377   89%
Female   6424   11%
      
21-29   6889   12%
30-39   9868   17%
40-49   12558   21%
50-59   14648   25%
60-69   10966   19%
70-79   3399   6%
80-89   454   1%
90-99   19   0%
      100%


Yes, there's a slight discrepancy in the totals. I don't know why.

Overall, the age distribution is holding pretty steady.

If anyone wants the cleaned, raw data to do their own analysis, it's here:
http://www.madfi.org/post/2009_02_todate_analysis.xls

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Thanks for the graphic and info, Andrew. :D

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The short answer is

90 / 10 male female

70% over 40

50% over 50

I would bet thats close for most states

Thanks for the info :)


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