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| Author: | josh2415 [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Good attorneys? |
Hi, new to the forum. Just went through training last week for the multi-state CCW permit. One of the things discussed was if we ever had to legally shoot someone in self defense, that we let the police know that we're willing to cooperate, but that we want to speak through an attorney, ie, bite our tongues until we've received legal advice. I pray that I'm never placed in this situation, but should it ever happen, does anyone have any suggestions for local (MSP) attorneys specializing in self-defense issues? Thought it might a good idea to know in advance who to call, should the need ever arise. |
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| Author: | jac714 [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
josh2415 wrote: Hi, new to the forum. Just went through training last week for the multi-state CCW permit. One of the things discussed was if we ever had to legally shoot someone in self defense, that we let the police know that we're willing to cooperate, but that we want to speak through an attorney, ie, bite our tongues until we've received legal advice. I pray that I'm never placed in this situation, but should it ever happen, does anyone have any suggestions for local (MSP) attorneys specializing in self-defense issues? Thought it might a good idea to know in advance who to call, should the need ever arise. Marc Berris www.berrislaw.com You might want to check out the search function, this issue has been covered many times, as recently as a couple of days ago. |
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| Author: | josh2415 [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
jac714 wrote: Marc Berris www.berrislaw.com You might want to check out the search function, this issue has been covered many times, as recently as a couple of days ago. Thanks. I had looked actually, but didn't find what I was looking for (I can never find stuff in the refrigerator either). 
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| Author: | joelr [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
josh2415 wrote: Hi, new to the forum. Just went through training last week for the multi-state CCW permit. One of the things discussed was if we ever had to legally shoot someone in self defense, that we let the police know that we're willing to cooperate, but that we want to speak through an attorney, ie, bite our tongues until we've received legal advice. I pray that I'm never placed in this situation, but should it ever happen, does anyone have any suggestions for local (MSP) attorneys specializing in self-defense issues? Thought it might a good idea to know in advance who to call, should the need ever arise. |
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| Author: | josh2415 [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
joelr wrote: Obvious question: what instructor told you you needed attorneys' numbers, but didn't bother to give you any? A competitor, no less. |
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| Author: | mrokern [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
josh2415 wrote: joelr wrote: Obvious question: what instructor told you you needed attorneys' numbers, but didn't bother to give you any? A competitor, no less. Many of the folks around here who teach hand out cards in class...it's not required, but is a good idea. |
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| Author: | joelr [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
josh2415 wrote: joelr wrote: Obvious question: what instructor told you you needed attorneys' numbers, but didn't bother to give you any? A competitor, no less. |
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| Author: | joelr [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
mrokern wrote: josh2415 wrote: joelr wrote: Obvious question: what instructor told you you needed attorneys' numbers, but didn't bother to give you any? A competitor, no less. Many of the folks around here who teach hand out cards in class...it's not required, but is a good idea. |
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| Author: | josh2415 [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
mrokern wrote: Many of the folks around here who teach hand out cards in class...it's not required, but is a good idea. Agreed, it would have been good to have received this info in class, however, there is SO MUCH material to cover in one day that I can totally understand how minor details could be missed. There's a chance too that it was included in the information packet that I received (but haven't taken the time to look through thoroughly). |
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| Author: | mrokern [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
josh2415 wrote: mrokern wrote: Many of the folks around here who teach hand out cards in class...it's not required, but is a good idea. Agreed, it would have been good to have received this info in class, however, there is SO MUCH material to cover in one day that I can totally understand how minor details could be missed. Welcome to the forum, by the way, and please realize that I'm in no way coming down on your head with this post. With all due respect, it is the instructor's job to NOT miss minor details. Granted, the attorney's numbers aren't required, so they can't be considered a missed detail (technically). When it comes to the required material, a missed detail can do students a grave disservice. -Mark |
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| Author: | reaver3 [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:11 pm ] |
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The issue is arguably not very minor, as well. |
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| Author: | josh2415 [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
mrokern wrote: Welcome to the forum, by the way, and please realize that I'm in no way coming down on your head with this post. With all due respect, it is the instructor's job to NOT miss minor details. Granted, the attorney's numbers aren't required, so they can't be considered a missed detail (technically). When it comes to the required material, a missed detail can do students a grave disservice. -Mark As I mentioned in my last post (which I edited), there's a chance that the info was in the packet that I received, but haven't taken the time to look through thoroughly. While I have the ear of instructors, also with all due respect, a class such as this which prepares individuals for safe and legal handgun carry/use should be more than a just a crash course. In the same way that cramming for an exam the night before is an ineffective way to learn class material, to be done right, I would think that this material should be presented over SEVERAL days, if not weeks. Life and death hang in the balance, potentially. |
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| Author: | joelr [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
josh2415 wrote: As I mentioned in my last post (which I edited), there's a chance that the info was in the packet that I received, but haven't taken the time to look through thoroughly. . |
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| Author: | josh2415 [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Good attorneys? |
joelr wrote: Sure. Did you miss the part where he (or she) explained which attorneys were being recommended, and why? Pretty sure that it wasn't discussed. However, I had been sitting in class for about 5 hours by that point, so there's a chance that I was in data overload and missed it. Don't think so though. Thank you for the service that this forum provides, btw. |
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| Author: | joelr [ Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:18 pm ] |
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You're kinda sorta welcome, but the Forum isn't intended to be aftermarket support for inadequate carry permit instructors, although, certainly, some folks have tried to use it that way. |
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