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 Post subject: What if...You are DENIED on Day 31? on Day 30 you are issued
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:15 am 
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Just an argument here....What if you are DENIED on day 31 or day 32. The MCPPA 2003/2005 provides that on day 30 you are granted a permit but on day 31 or 32 a DENIAL letter arrives??

Too little too late?

Are you already a permitee? Is it TOO LATE for them to deny you?

That's my reading. They have 30 days to deny you, otherwise...automatic permit.

What do you use for a permit? You denial letter !!! ??? You go to court and force them to provide a permit...what a fun test case that would be for the wealthy gun owner. :)

Here's a twist...you don't want to go to court...just use the denial letter for your pemit...that would be the smartass approach :D

Joel's line of "how much justice can you afford" applies.

So, no permit or no denial in 30 days means you are a permit holder for 5 years...they have blown their opportunity to deny your permit.


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It won't happen. They delay to day 30 as a game. If they're going to deny you, they know it earlier than that, and will make sure to tell you ahead of time.

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12smile wrote:
Just an argument here....What if you are DENIED on day 31 or day 32. The MCPPA 2003/2005 provides that on day 30 you are granted a permit but on day 31 or 32 a DENIAL letter arrives??

Too little too late?

Are you already a permitee? Is it TOO LATE for them to deny you?

That's my reading. They have 30 days to deny you, otherwise...automatic permit.

What do you use for a permit? You denial letter !!! ??? You go to court and force them to provide a permit...what a fun test case that would be for the wealthy gun owner. :)

Here's a twist...you don't want to go to court...just use the denial letter for your pemit...that would be the smartass approach :D

Joel's line of "how much justice can you afford" applies.

So, no permit or no denial in 30 days means you are a permit holder for 5 years...they have blown their opportunity to deny your permit.


Even if you get the card you are still not guaranteed your permit for 5 years. It may be revoked if you ever become ineligible. So in your scenario you would have a permit for one day. After they deny you are ineligible until you win the appeal.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:12 pm 
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jaysong wrote:
Even if you get the card you are still not guaranteed your permit for 5 years. It may be revoked if you ever become ineligible. So in your scenario you would have a permit for one day. After they deny you are ineligible until you win the appeal.


Not all revocations are immediately effective. Some require court action.


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