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Changing company policy re: parking lots and private vehicle
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Author:  jaysong [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:57 pm ]
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djeepp wrote:
jaysong wrote:
Andrew Rothman wrote:
So, you already have your next job lined up, huh?


:roll:


Apparently you have never run into an anti before that is so fearful of guns that they will immediately call the police upon sight of what might possibly be a photo of a picture of a replica of a gun. These types of people have jobs. Often times they have jobs in HR or corporate positions. Do you think they check their hysteria at the door?


I do not let others reaction dictate what I do. It may play a roll in what I do but not dictate. Andrew has not been known to shy away from a fight that is why he got a
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:roll:
He nailed it with his poking a bear comment. :wink: I do not want to discourage other who are trying to do the right thing. 8)
Author:  Andrew Rothman [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:57 pm ]
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Andrew doesn't always shy away from a fight...

...but he also chooses winnable battles, with an eye toward keeping a roof over the heads of -- and food in the mouths of -- his family.

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Carry permits are not the exclusive domain of people who work in constant fear of their boss.


That's pretty obnoxious, like the antis saying, "Why do you carry a gun? Are you paranoid?"

I'm not afraid of my bosses, but I also can't afford to ignore the fact that most people don't support, much less understand, gun rights, and many can't distinguish between "gun owner," "gun nut" and "mass murderer."

It's an individual decision, of course, and the person in the situation is usually best equipped, and always has the right, to make that decision.

If you are single and delivering pizzas, I could easily see either making the case for carry, or quietly breaking the rules for your own personal safety.

On the other hand, a married-with-children professional in a well-paying job in a struggling economy, working in a less-than-deadly profession like sitting in a locked office in the suburbs, might make a completely different decision.

I was flippant when I asked about the new job. What I could have said was, "Just make sure you are prepared to deal with the consequences of outing yourself, and not getting the answer you hope for."

My way was more fun. :)
Author:  JohnK87 [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:45 am ]
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I'm not worried about while I am at work, but I don't like being disarmed for the drive there and back home.
Author:  JohnK87 [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:31 am ]
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I got a reply back from the corporate VP/Counsel that he was reviewing the issue and would get back to me.

Plus, my badge still worked and I didn't get strip searched yet!
Author:  joelr [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:41 am ]
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JohnK87 wrote:
I got a reply back from the corporate VP/Counsel that he was reviewing the issue and would get back to me.

Plus, my badge still worked and I didn't get strip searched yet!
So far, so good.
Author:  johngagemn [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:51 am ]
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JohnK87 wrote:
I got a reply back from the corporate VP/Counsel that he was reviewing the issue and would get back to me.

Plus, my badge still worked and I didn't get strip searched yet!


Good to hear! Image
Author:  princewally [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:57 am ]
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JohnK87 wrote:
and I didn't get strip searched yet!


Is that a pro or a con?
Author:  johngagemn [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:01 am ]
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princewally wrote:
JohnK87 wrote:
and I didn't get strip searched yet!


Is that a pro or a con?


Depends on who's doing the searching! :twisted:
Author:  joelr [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:04 am ]
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johngagemn wrote:
princewally wrote:
JohnK87 wrote:
and I didn't get strip searched yet!


Is that a pro or a con?


Depends on who's doing the searching! :twisted:
"Oooh. You're cute. Could you search me again? Slowly."
Author:  JohnK87 [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:49 pm ]
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It would probably be more like, "Dude... are you using the whole fist there?"
Author:  JimC [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:58 pm ]
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You're probably on the Homeland Security watch list now, :shock:
Author:  realtor_packing_heat [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:31 pm ]
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JohnK87 wrote:
It would probably be more like, "Dude... are you using the whole fist there?"


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Author:  partsscout [ Mon May 04, 2009 5:35 pm ]
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Any updates?
Author:  Erik_Pakieser [ Mon May 04, 2009 5:50 pm ]
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JohnK87 wrote:
I doubt it. Lots of firearms at my work (guards) and several of the captains know I'm a gun guy. I also don't carry anything in my vehicle in violation of policy- I'd rather get it changed so I can be OK than be a plaintiff in a lawsuit over unlawful termination.


Is your company by chance a nuclear power plant? There is a Federal regulation that trumps state law regarding those. It's not going to result in any jail time, but you'd be looking at civil sanctions from the NRC and definitely lose your job.
Author:  JohnK87 [ Mon May 04, 2009 9:16 pm ]
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The lawyer relents!

"Policy ***, Workplace Violence, states that workers may not have weapons in a personal vehicle while on Company property. The policy also contains the following language:


Applicability

This policy applies to all employees of *****. If, and to the extent that, any provision or section of this policy conflicts with federal, state, or local laws, the latter shall control.


Currently **** provides parking areas at <sites> for workers who carry or possess firearms in their vehicles. Those parking areas are on Company property outside the **** area. This arrangement complies with both federal law and state law."

So... I may have to use a specific parking lot, but I CAN keep my gun in my vehicle and not have to disarm on the way to and from work!! (Note- edits were made as the specific company and situation is not germane. There are some Federal laws that apply in areas but not including these parking areas designated. I'll work internally to ensure that this information is promulgated to those who need to know it.)
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