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 Hennepin County Sheriff Stanek on Channel 5 w/ siezed guns 
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 2:59 pm 
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I think the value of the proposition can be explained to a, err, willing, smart, and decorative young woman in a non-creepy way, starting with, "Look: most of the guys involved in this stuff are, well guys, who have faces that are barely good enough for radio . . . "

But the smart and willing are even more important than the decorative, as neat as that is. And there are some real serious issues that have to be discussed with anybody new to this in advance, because you don't ask your folks to take risks without explaining to them what you think those risks are.

So: I'll offer to help, but I really think it's important to remember that stuff. (And I'm not saying the other volunteers haven't thought about it, but nobody in this thread has mentioned it yet.)


In a nutshell we need to "Oleg Volk" Sheriff Stanek.

He set up a lame-ass media show with a table full of guns. Maybe he thought this was campaining? This guy is ripe for some Guerrilla Theatre nose tweaking.

One of my thoughts here is that this community of "OLD FAT WHITE GUYS" needs to do some outreach to let's say, the Carry on Campus folks. Or (non-firearms) self-defense community.

I see the dead-serious political lobbying that the accomplished members of this community are doing....I think there's thousands of dollars of "FREE MEDIA" available if it's given a little thought.

NOTE: This should not be SLEAZY. So much of the Girls and Guns stuff is boring low quality porn.

But Stanek could have been stood on his Lazy-ass head by a smart, educated, articulate "Hot Blonde in a Tight T-shirt" who could have looked the reporter in the eye and explained how her small revolver gives her peace of mind as she walks to her pickup in a dark parking lot.
With a little effort he could have been totally bamboozled and upstaged by a little media savvy activism....When Oleg Volk is in Minneapolis for a visit...ask him for his thoughts.

I'm not suggesting that we hire a fricking Stripper :) we just need to do some outreach to the "Hot Blonde in a T-Shirt" community. Let's say you find 3 or 4 candidates for the positions...

Some of the instructors here could put them though their classes. Basic permit to carry then Advanced Self Defense Tactics and so on. Coach them at the range and then get them to show up and go on camera at media events. Maybe this HOT FIREARMS SPOKESMODEL doesn't need to be invented...maybe she's out there but never knew we could use her help.

I see guys taking off from work to show up in committee meetings...My though is that there's a lot of power in tweaking the media.

The Second Ammendment march is coming up this summer...this community of OLD FAT WHITE GUYS could bring forward a TELEGENIC SPOKES PERSON.

Again in a nutshell we need to "Oleg Volk" Sheriff Stanek.


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I know of some Suzanna Hupp types around Nashville. I am sure they exist around Mpls/StPaul also. I suggest not going for the pointy nipple factor -- it would be hidden during the cold part of the year and quite likely counter-productive the rest of the time.

Women in IT tell me that being pretty makes many people assume that they are not too bright.

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I hate to be such a grump but I'm going to raise my hand and say that this is a supremely bad idea.

Local television news is only interested in interviewing two kinds of people:
1) News makers, that is, holders of public office, candidates for the same, and people directly involved in current events, and
2) People who will give them the quotes they want.

So, the story, including what you the interviewee is supposed to say, is already written by some producer back at the station, and it's the reporter's job to get you to say whatever the producer wants you to say. If you are wise to the game, and don't play along, then you don't get airtime. And if you are naive, you say something that you didn't want to say that gets taken out of context to support the station's story. The story that they want to present, whatever the issue of the day may be, is of two polar opposites in pitched battle. The more extreme the viewpoints, the less rational the spokespeople, the happier the producer.

Unless the "spokesmodel" has training and prior on-camera experience, she is not going to be able to play the game, let alone win. What will happen is that, out of a half hour interview, 29 minutes and 45 seconds of lucid, insightful commentary will be cut to present the 15 seconds when she looked and sounded like a lunatic fool.

Florida lights the only way forward for media successes for gun owners. The conflict there has been recast. It is no longer between "pro gun" and "gun control" forces but rather between gun owners and criminals.

The only way to make that happen is to get more publicity for DGUs. It is my view that, in Florida, public acceptance of DGUs has reached a point where they are routine and are rarely enough prosecuted that people are now willing to speak up, to speak to the media, without fear of jeopardizing an imminent legal defense. In Minnesota, this is not the case, and any competent criminal defense attorney is going to tell someone involved in a DGU to speak to no one, not police, not media, not anyone on this board, about the incident or anything having remotely to do with guns or self-defense.


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I know of some Suzanna Hupp types around Nashville. I am sure they exist around Mpls/StPaul also.
Sure. And Dr. Hupp is the ideal spokesperson: smart, tough, eloquent, honest, and very decorative. I mean, seriously: what's not to like?

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I hate to be such a grump but I'm going to raise my hand and say that this is a supremely bad idea.

Local television news is only interested in interviewing two kinds of people:
1) News makers, that is, holders of public office, candidates for the same, and people directly involved in current events, and
2) People who will give them the quotes they want.
I dunno. I've gotten interviewed a few times -- and the film used most of those times -- and I'm neither. I guess we could stretch and say I'm a person "directly involved in current events," from time to time, but that would be a stretch, most of the time. (When I was most directly involved -- that little incident around the repassage of the MCPPA in 2005 -- I didn't do TV interviews while the story was hot, although there was some interest. By the time that I would have been willing to sit down with a tv reporter, if I'd been asked, the phone had long since stopped ringing. Which was just fine with me, what with that whole "face made for radio" thing I've got going.)

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Which was just fine with me, what with that whole "face made for radio" thing I've got going.)


A face for radio and a voice for newspapers.

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Which was just fine with me, what with that whole "face made for radio" thing I've got going.)


A face for radio and a voice for newspapers.
Definition of character, alas, is neither a crime nor a tort. Damn.

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http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/648059.html Photos of Dee's kid
http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/33906-2/g ... 906web.jpg For those who wanted a blond spokescreature

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