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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 pm 
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Followup Article From Green Bay

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Green Bay Council Shoots Down Gun Restriction in Parks

Updated: Sep 02, 2009 10:38 PM CDT
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City Council Rejects Open-Carry Ban in ParksBy Sarah Thomsen

It will remain legal to openly carry guns in public parks within Green Bay city limits. City leaders made that decision at Tuesday night after hearing passionate debate from gun rights advocates.

The city council decided to shelve any future action on a proposal to ban guns in city parks. The council says it's just not an issue that should be debated at the local level.

The debate started after a picnic at Ted Fritsch Park last month where about 90 people celebrated their right to openly carry weapons in a public park.

The mayor said he talked with staff and asked the law department to write an ordinance banning open-carry in city parks.

Most people who oppose the ban feel the city is trying to infringe on their constitutional rights. One man even handed the council copies of the Constitution to make his point.

Of those who addressed the council, every speaker opposed the proposal except one.

"What I'm asking you is, where is the money coming from that's going to defend you individually and collectively against the lawsuits that will follow when you enact something as inane and stupid as this?" open-carry supporter Rick Jerry said.

"You're inventing a problem and promoting fear. This is a blatant attack on our rights, and you know it," Jeff Stordock said.

"If people are going to start having guns in parks to prove that they can carry a gun, I don't understand that," opponent Taku Ronsman said, "because you can go to places where they have target practice, hunting, there are appropriate places for guns."

Since the council decided to receive and place this on file, effectively nothing happens from now on. If another group wants to hold an open-carry picnic like the one last month, they still legally can.

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"If people are going to start having guns in parks to prove that they can carry a gun, I don't understand that," opponent Taku Ronsman said, "because you can go to places where they have target practice, hunting, there are appropriate places for guns."


Sure. Because places where they have target practice, hunting, etc. are really places where you're going to need to defend yourself. :roll:

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"If people are going to start having guns in parks to prove that they can carry a gun, I don't understand that," opponent Taku Ronsman said, "because you can go to places where they have target practice, hunting, there are appropriate places for guns."

That's right Taku, you don't understand it.


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...Somehow, I just don't think scaring people and making people uncomfortable is going to be an effective long-term strategy. We'll see. Bikes??? Apples, oranges, guns, bikes......



More people die riding bikes in Minnesota than do carrying firearms... so you're right it's not an apples & oranges comparison, but not in the way you intended.

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