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Author:  Traveler [ Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Ramsey County Renewal

I went to the Ramsey County Sheriff's office today to renew my permit. I was surprised and delighted to see the transaction windows to the right of Checkpoint Bobby (staffed by two exceptionally sloven private guard service types). Five years ago I had to go upstairs and there was just an open counter, not a security window through which to do the transaction.

I had pre-assembled everything I was told to provide by the materials from the Ramsey County Sheriff's office:

Copy of my Driver's License;
Copy of my certificate;
Completed application;
Completed authorization for background check;
Original certificate;
Actual Driver's License.

The young lady behind the counter was cheerful as she took all of the items. She then asked for my permit so that she could copy it. I asked directly if that was a requirement because if it was I must have missed it. She replied that no one normally has a copy, which is why they copy it themselves. That did not answer my question.

She then said that they would only accept the exact amount of the fee, and that they would not make change. That complicated things since I had proffered four $20 bills. We finally sorted it out and she double-checked the application.

Then she issued me my cash and renewal receipts and stated "The Sheriff has 30 days to issue the permit." With that she turned and walked away.

I suspect the 30 day reference was a statement of fact: It will take 30 days to renew my permit.

I will post in the "Turnaround" forum exactly how long it will take.

Author:  joelr [ Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

Traveler wrote:
I went to the Ramsey County Sheriff's office today to renew my permit. I was surprised and delighted to see the transaction windows to the right of Checkpoint Bobby (staffed by two exceptionally sloven private guard service types). Five years ago I had to go upstairs and there was just an open counter, not a security window through which to do the transaction.

I had pre-assembled everything I was told to provide by the materials from the Ramsey County Sheriff's office:

Copy of my Driver's License;
Copy of my certificate;
Completed application;
Completed authorization for background check;
Original certificate;
Actual Driver's License.

The young lady behind the counter was cheerful as she took all of the items. She then asked for my permit so that she could copy it. I asked directly if that was a requirement because if it was I must have missed it. She replied that no one normally has a copy, which is why they copy it themselves. That did not answer my question.

She then said that they would only accept the exact amount of the fee, and that they would not make change. That complicated things since I had proffered four $20 bills. We finally sorted it out and she double-checked the application.

Then she issued me my cash and renewal receipts and stated "The Sheriff has 30 days to issue the permit." With that she turned and walked away.

I suspect the 30 day reference was a statement of fact: It will take 30 days to renew my permit.

I will post in the "Turnaround" forum exactly how long it will take.

Good.

Pretty typical minimal runaround from Ramsey -- they asked for only three things that the law says they can't ask for, did the usual I don't make change for your kind, or accept checks from trash like you, gave a nonresponsive answer to a peon's question, but that's all I can see.

Author:  Traveler [ Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

Twenty days so far and counting.

Imagine that, and I didn't take my renewal class from Joel! (Inside joke.)

I suspect that they will indeed take all of 30 days to issue my renewal.

Author:  joelr [ Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

Probably. Sigh.

Author:  johngagemn [ Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

So, am I the only one in history that got his permit issued by Ramsey County in a timely fashion? Back when I first applied in 2004 I turned in my paperwork on a Thursday morning and had my permit in the mail the following Monday. I remember being surprised because I had heard all sorts of horror stories about dealing with Fletcher. :?: :?: :?:

It took longer for me to get my permit to purchase from Roseville PD in 2003 (two weeks) than it took to get my carry permit the next year.

Author:  joelr [ Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

johngagemn wrote:
So, am I the only one in history that got his permit issued by Ramsey County in a timely fashion?
Nah. Many do. Err, "who was your instructor?"
8)

Author:  johngagemn [ Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

joelr wrote:
Nah. Many do. Err, "who was your instructor?"
8)


Some guy who claims to be a Jew with a gun...

Next time I'm upgrading and taking my class from some guy named Coconut Charlie. He says I can haz gun permit too! :lol:

Author:  joelr [ Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

johngagemn wrote:
joelr wrote:
Nah. Many do. Err, "who was your instructor?"
8)


Some guy who claims to be a Jew with a gun[Note: Link added by me. JR]...
Why, yes, you did! (I hadn't forgotten, honest; but I'm not going to out somebody without permission or good reason.)
Quote:

Next time I'm upgrading and taking my class from some guy named Coconut Charlie. He says I can haz gun permit too! :lol:
You canz!

Author:  Traveler [ Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

Twenty four days and counting.


Ah, er, um, well … could he be applying the "30 business days" rule here?


Just thinking …

Author:  johngagemn [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

I believe the law is 30 calendar days, not business days.

Author:  joelr [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

Yup. But they could still be pulling it out of their asses applying their own misunderstanding, rather than following the law.

Author:  johngagemn [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ramsey County Renewal

No, Sheriff Fletcher and his staff would never stoop so... :bang:

Jeez, I couldn't even finish typing it before I started choking too hard to finish.

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