Due Notification to State, Sheriffs, etc?
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:54 pm |
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cobb wrote: Just got off the phone with Captain Frandrup. She said because of the hundreds of requests, budget cuts, lack of manpower, etc., they do not send out a conformation letter anymore.
Aha. Well, that makes it once more a very good idea to send the letters return receipt requested -- or perhaps to send a SASE with a preprinted receipt for them to sign?
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cobb
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:57 pm |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: cobb wrote: Just got off the phone with Captain Frandrup. She said because of the hundreds of requests, budget cuts, lack of manpower, etc., they do not send out a conformation letter anymore. Aha. Well, that makes it once more a very good idea to send the letters return receipt requested -- or perhaps to send a SASE with a preprinted receipt for them to sign?
And yes I did send it certified mail with a return receipt as suggest on this forum.
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mostlylawabidingcitizen
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:44 pm |
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Dang! Sent mine about 2 weeks ago - Regular mail... since they were sending out confirmation of notice letters. I wonder if a call would get a confirmation of receipt?
I won't be able to make the birthday party anyways. Back Surgery - won't be able to drive for most of the following week.
Sucks getting old!
Mostly-
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cobb
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:33 am |
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mostlylawabidingcitizen wrote: I wonder if a call would get a confirmation of receipt?
If you mean a letter, no. During my conversation with Captain Frandrup, even the suggestion of me requesting a conformation letter and sending a self addressed envelope with return postage was not acceptable.
Unless it says somewhere that a conformation letter is required by law or procedure, I don't think you will be doing anything but wasting time by requesting a letter. It was maybe something they where doing out of convenience for the few that notified the Capital of their intentions, but they no longer have the resources to cover the volume and the practice has ceased.
From our coversation, the only conformation you can get is a verbal one from Capital Police.
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:26 am |
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Well, that's unfortunate, but understandable. I'm a big fan of Captain Frandrup, and if she says that they don't have the resources to send out confirmations, they don't --
-- and that's a good thing: it means that there's a lot of notification letters going in.
For me, it'll mean just one change in my class -- I'll give folks the phone number of Capitol Security and tell them to doublecheck after a couple of weeks. Easier than sending it certified.
No biggie.
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cobb
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:37 am |
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joelr wrote: -- and that's a good thing: it means that there's a lot of notification letters going in.
Yes, she did mention hundreds.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:42 am |
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cobb wrote: joelr wrote: -- and that's a good thing: it means that there's a lot of notification letters going in. Yes, she did mention hundreds.
Hee hee.
For the sheer political value of the state seeing all the permit holders, maybe we -- as instructors -- ought to hand out pre-written notification letters and preaddressed envelopes to our students, to encourage them to notify.
_________________ * NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.
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ttousi
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:57 am |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: cobb wrote: joelr wrote: -- and that's a good thing: it means that there's a lot of notification letters going in. Yes, she did mention hundreds. Hee hee. For the sheer political value of the state seeing all the permit holders, maybe we -- as instructors -- ought to hand out pre-written notification letters and preaddressed envelopes to our students, to encourage them to notify.
Are they done yet?
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:12 am |
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ttousi wrote: Andrew Rothman wrote: Hee hee. For the sheer political value of the state seeing all the permit holders, maybe we -- as instructors -- ought to hand out pre-written notification letters and preaddressed envelopes to our students, to encourage them to notify. Are they done yet?
Sure. Stop by any time to pick yours up.
_________________ * NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.
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Maverick68
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Post subject: Re: Due Notification to State, Sheriffs, etc? Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:24 pm |
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I did a search for "courthouse" and this is the post that came up. I know this is an old post, but I couldn't find it anywhere else.
I am occasionally in the Hennepin County Courthouse (lobby level) filing evictions and would prefer not to disarm or leave my gun at home that day. If I read the thread correctly from back in 2005, it says that if you are caught carrying, you could be held in contempt.
Is this still the answer?
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joelr
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Post subject: Re: Due Notification to State, Sheriffs, etc? Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:30 pm |
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Maverick68 wrote: I did a search for "courthouse" and this is the post that came up. I know this is an old post, but I couldn't find it anywhere else.
I am occasionally in the Hennepin County Courthouse (lobby level) filing evictions and would prefer not to disarm or leave my gun at home that day. If I read the thread correctly from back in 2005, it says that if you are caught carrying, you could be held in contempt.
Is this still the answer? Yup. If you ever want to be a test case on that, you'll likely have a fair amount of support, but I'd advise against it.
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Rotary12
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Post subject: Re: Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:18 pm |
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grayskys wrote: Do the letters ever expire, like say when your permit expires or after one year? I sent my letter into the sate before the tea party and called in a week later to verify that I was on the list. I also asked how long it was good for and they said as long as my permit is valid.
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Post subject: Re: Re: Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:07 pm |
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Rotary12 wrote: I sent my letter into the sate... ...and called in a week later to verify that I was on the list. Ah, the list. I love reading posts from "listers". It always makes me smile.
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Rotary12
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Post subject: Re: Due Notification to State, Sheriffs, etc? Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:55 pm |
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YES... I finally get to say I'm on "The LIST"!!!
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Maverick68
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Post subject: Re: Due Notification to State, Sheriffs, etc? Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:58 pm |
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I was at the Henn Cty Sheriff's office last week and was chatting with the deputy. I said "I have my carry permit, I know I can't carry in the courthouse, is this building [the sheriff's building] also off-limits?" He said yes and then said a conceal carry permit holder was arrested earlier in the week for carrying by the "family court" area? They said it was a women, but didn't know much more.
I tried to Google it, but found nothing.
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