I always wear muffs when shooting skeet, but when pheasant hunting I never do. I'm consistently amazed at the fact that the 3" magnum shells I use hunting don't seem very loud, yet even sitting 25 yards away from other shooters at the skeet range their light target load shots DO seem loud.

Not quite the same as a short-barreled handgun, but there's a heck of a lot more powder in a 3" magnum shotshell than in a pistol round.

JDR, where were you living that you had a house being built "next door" but you could still casually pump out 45 LC rounds off the back porch, HST-style?

Do you know a good recipe? Wild goose is not quite like domesticated.

We shot up some windshields and car doors at Camp Ripley with the St Paul CIRT team a long time ago to demonstrate angle of incidence/angle of deflection type issues. We didn't shoot handguns at them, but the car doors didn't do a damn thing to stop a rifle round. The windshield didn't do much to deflect a .308 unless the shot hit at an extreme angle.

Have towed cars involved in shootings involving handguns.

The first one had .380 holes in the windshield (parked), straight in shots.....sent several to the hospital. BG took return fire from a .40 and wandered off and expired.

Second was a moving gun battle .......recovered casings were .40 and .45. Of course no firearms were present when LEO's arrived. Straight-in shots penetrated trunk lid and rear qtr. panel but anything with an angle deflected and gouged (ie trunk lid)

All in all I would not count on auto sheet metal for protection.

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Maybe if it was a 1957 Buick Roadmaster or Cadillac or something, but certainly not a car made these days. They make them any thinner and they switch over from sheet metal to foil.

I’m thinking it is the fact that this particular handgun had a 3” barrel.

In answer to your question, I live in Victoria. I am on a lake where many people, including a good friend of mine shoot geese and ducks just a few hundred feet off my shoreline. There is a hunt and gun club nearby where the reports from the shotguns is very audible.

Admittedly it was a few years ago, when not quite so many house were completed at the time. I think I could get away with today, but I have mellowed some since.