Subject: Senate passes amendend concealed carry bill
From: Dick Baker <dick.baker at wisconsinconcealedcarry.com>
Date: Tue, Jan 17, 2006 5:19 pm

This afternoon, the state Senate voted 28 to 5 to concur on the Personal
Protection Act concealed carry bill as it had been amended by the Assembly
last month. It will be delivered to Governor Doyle's desk by the end of
today. (Note: the 28 votes in favor of concurrence does not mean that we
have 28 votes for the bill).

Governor Doyle now has seven days in which to veto the bill, which he has
already promised to do.

A Senate veto override session may happen as soon as the end of next week.
It is almost certain that we will have the votes in the Senate to override
Doyle's veto.

Still, we cannot take the Senate for granted. So please contact your state
senator and ask him or her to vote for the veto override. If you don't know
who your state senator is, just go to http://165.189.139.210/waml/ and enter
your address.

It is especially important to call the five Senate Democrats who voted for
the bill on December 6th and thank them for their vote, as well as to
encourage them to vote for the veto override. Those senators are:

Senator Russ Decker (608)266-2502
sen.decker@legis.state.wi.us

Senator Julie Lassa (608) 266-3123
sen.lassa@legis.state.wi.us

Senator Bob Wirch (888) 769-4724
sen.wirch@legis.state.wi.us

Senator Roger Breske (800) 334-8773
sen.breske@legis.state.wi.us

Senator Jeff Plale (608) 266-7505
sen.plale@legis.state.wi.us

The Senate veto override vote will be the second-last step in the process.
If the governor's veto is overridden, the bill will be sent to the Assembly
for an override vote. It's in the Assembly where our numbers are tight: we
are at exactly the 66 votes needed.

Therefore, please take a few minutes to call and thank the Assembly
Democrats who voted for the bill on December 14th. Those representatives
are:

Representative Barbara Gronemus (888) 534-0091
rep.gronemus@legis.state.wi.us

Representative Mary Hubler (888) 534-0075
rep.hubler@legis.state.wi.us

Representative Marlin Schneider (888) 529-0072
rep.schneider@legis.state.wi.us

Representative John Steinbrink (608) 266-0455
rep.steinbrink@legis.state.wi.us

Representative Terry Van Akkeren (608) 266-0656
rep.vanakkeren@legis.state.wi.us

Representative Amy Sue Vruwink (888) 534-0070
rep.vruwink@legis.state.wi.us

Governor Doyle will be using every means at his disposal to get these
Democrats to break ranks with us. It's up to us to keep the pressure on by
politely offering thanks and encouragement.

Please forward this email to every gun owner and friend of freedom that you
know.

Thanks,
The Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association

So any thoughts on how the training and reciprocity will work between Minnesota and Wisconsin?

must have successfully completed a firearms training or safety course or class that was taught by an instructor who is certified by DOJ.

(3m) COURSE OR CLASS REQUIREMENTS. (a) A firearm training or firearm safety course or class under sub. (3) (h) 1. or 3. shall include all of the following:

2. Instruction on the privilege of self−defense and the defense of others under s. 939.48.

3. Instruction on how to avoid injuring 3rd parties when defending himself,
herself, or others in a manner that is privileged under s. 939.48.

4. Basic self−defense principles.

5. Instruction on how to carry a concealed handgun safely.

6. Instruction on firing a handgun.

7. Practice firing a handgun.

8. Instruction by an instructor certified by the department under par. (b).

(b) The department shall certify instructors and maintain a list of instructors that it certifies. To be certified by the department as an instructor, a person must meet all of the following criteria:

1. Be qualified under sub. (3) to carry a concealed weapon.

2. Be able to demonstrate the ability and knowledge required for instructing students under par. (a) 1. to 7.

One saving grace: The law is pretty explicit about out-of-state permits. If the DOJ messes around, Wisconsinites will probably end up getting Utah permits.

WI residents will have to carry on a Wisconsin permit. Out of Staters will be able to carry on just about any other permit.

Where does it say WI people have to carry on a WI permit?

I don't know, how about a link to the version you are reading and we can maybe help you out.

Now if Doyle does nothing with it within 7 days, does it automatically become law after that 7 day period with out a signature?

...politicians always keep their promises!