More Minneapolis permit to purchase silliness!
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tman065
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:17 am |
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No one uses licensed LEO's to conduct firearms background checks. Are they saying that the office staff is out patrollling during the covention?
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Macx
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:21 am |
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It is a political statement. It isn't about staffing. It is about saying they are going to keep everybody safe by making sure that law abiding people who don't have carry permits can't legally buy guns during the RNC and that is somehow going to stop nutballs from obtaining guns illegally and doing nutty things.
It is 100% political statement and it is insulting and wrong.
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Greg
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:30 am |
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someone1980 wrote: When has the law gotten in the BATFE's way?
This isn't an BATFE problem, just a MN specific one.
I've got a friend that ordered a gun and used report of transfer. The department didn't reply, or object, and the transfer was made. The department didn't like that and started harassing the friend and tried to get her to turn over the gun. It eventually got sorted out but was a major hassle! This was in Afton.
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Greg
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:31 am |
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Macx wrote: It is a political statement. It isn't about staffing. It is about saying they are going to keep everybody safe by making sure that law abiding people who don't have carry permits can't legally buy guns during the RNC and that is somehow going to stop nutballs from obtaining guns illegally and doing nutty things.
It is 100% political statement and it is insulting and wrong.
I tend to agree with you on this one!
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chunkstyle
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:39 am |
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tman065 wrote: No one uses licensed LEO's to conduct firearms background checks. Are they saying that the office staff is out patrollling during the covention?
Actually, last time I was in City Hall, there was a sworn officer in the firearms office... Duy Ngo, the officer that got shot up by Storlie. Seems this was where the MPD put him.
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Scott Hughes
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:22 am |
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Silliness from silly people; isn’t that special. 25 yrs ago I moved from Mpls. and haven’t looked back or missed the place one iota. This is coming from one who had lived in the city for more than half his life. City politics for what they are today truly sadden me.
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someone1980
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:02 pm |
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Greg wrote: someone1980 wrote: When has the law gotten in the BATFE's way? This isn't an BATFE problem, just a MN specific one.
I should have given more context to my comment. I am referring to getting a gun shop to do anything that isn't the standard way that they always do it, even if it is legal. This being because the BATFE is so amazingly aggressive for even the most minor infraction of a made up rule.
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Fubar
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:49 pm |
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kimberman wrote: I'll bet that the guy who does permits is taking "vacation" from the MPD and "working" the Convention (for the SPPD) under the federal convention grant. Thus he gets paid TWICE and residents of Minneapolis get neither "Protection or Service."
It's my understanding that the officers headed to St. Paul to work the RNC event are being paid by their department, who in turn bills St. Paul.
So I doubt Minneapolis PD will pay anybody twice.
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gyrfalcon
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:57 pm |
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tman065 wrote: No one uses licensed LEO's to conduct firearms background checks. Are they saying that the office staff is out patrollling during the covention?
I've never seen a LEO at the Minneapolis counter. Last time I was there an office worker who had a civilian badge on collected my paperwork.
He was kinda testy like some cops though... When he told me not to carry once my permit expired I said "Yeah that makes sense" and he thought I was arguing with him for a moment before he comprehended what I said.
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hypertech
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:04 pm |
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Fubar wrote: kimberman wrote: I'll bet that the guy who does permits is taking "vacation" from the MPD and "working" the Convention (for the SPPD) under the federal convention grant. Thus he gets paid TWICE and residents of Minneapolis get neither "Protection or Service." It's my understanding that the officers headed to St. Paul to work the RNC event are being paid by their department, who in turn bills St. Paul. So I doubt Minneapolis PD will pay anybody twice.
I don't have any problem with people taking their paid vacation and then working on it to make more money.
However, just like any other company, when everyone wants to take vacation at the same time, management has to place limits on how many people actually get vacation so that the place doesn't shut down due to everyone being gone.
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sigman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:39 pm |
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Plain and simple, the MPD is shirking their responsibilities. Very unprofessional and totally political.
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Five Seven
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:42 pm |
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DeanC wrote: kimberman wrote: After the "processing time" expires, the permit IS issued. The photocopy of the application plus the USPS return receipt constitutes the evidence of your transferee permit. And do you have any suggestions for convincing a paranoid gun store owner that he should now sell you a gun? Has anybody ever successfully purchased a gun using this method?
I just said my Prozac prescription ran out last week, and I'd really appreciate the gun sale, RIGHT NOW PLEASE!
Then I'd reach into my shirt pocket, pull out a few rounds for the gun I'm looking at, and say, see, I have bullets and everything. Yup, that should work!
^^^^SARCASM^^^^^^^
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Greg
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:09 pm |
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Five Seven wrote: DeanC wrote: kimberman wrote: After the "processing time" expires, the permit IS issued. The photocopy of the application plus the USPS return receipt constitutes the evidence of your transferee permit. And do you have any suggestions for convincing a paranoid gun store owner that he should now sell you a gun? Has anybody ever successfully purchased a gun using this method? I just said my Prozac prescription ran out last week, and I'd really appreciate the gun sale, RIGHT NOW PLEASE! Then I'd reach into my shirt pocket, pull out a few rounds for the gun I'm looking at, and say, see, I have bullets and everything. Yup, that should work! ^^^^SARCASM^^^^^^^
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JonL
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:41 pm |
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Five Seven wrote: DeanC wrote: kimberman wrote: After the "processing time" expires, the permit IS issued. The photocopy of the application plus the USPS return receipt constitutes the evidence of your transferee permit. And do you have any suggestions for convincing a paranoid gun store owner that he should now sell you a gun? Has anybody ever successfully purchased a gun using this method? I just said my Prozac prescription ran out last week, and I'd really appreciate the gun sale, RIGHT NOW PLEASE! Then I'd reach into my shirt pocket, pull out a few rounds for the gun I'm looking at, and say, see, I have bullets and everything. Yup, that should work! ^^^^SARCASM^^^^^^^ Quote: Then I'd reach into my shirt pocket, pull out a few rounds for the gun I'm looking at, and say,.. ... the voices tell me these should work. What do you think?
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:16 am |
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I wonder if the people they had doing background checks are being loaned out to do a bunch of checks for the Secret Service and etc in anticipation of the RNC?
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