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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:42 am 
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Hello,

I'm about to take a trip to Virginia, and am looking for a link to the statutes concerning carry in Virginia. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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Ya know, you can just call me. :lol:

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm


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mrokern wrote:
Ya know, you can just call me. :lol:


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The one thing I can't find is whether or not I have an obligation to inform an officer, or whether it is similar to MN law where I only have to tell him if asked.

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H. The permit to carry a concealed handgun shall specify only the following information: name, address, date of birth, gender, height, weight, color of hair, color of eyes, and signature of the permittee; the signature of the judge issuing the permit, or of the clerk of court who has been authorized to sign such permits by the issuing judge; the date of issuance; and the expiration date. The permit to carry a concealed handgun shall be no larger than two inches wide by three and one-fourth inches long and shall be of a uniform style prescribed by the Department of State Police. The person issued the permit shall have such permit on his person at all times during which he is carrying a concealed handgun and shall display the permit and a photo-identification issued by a government agency of the Commonwealth or by the United States Department of Defense or United States State Department (passport) upon demand by a law-enforcement officer.


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Yeah, I found that, but that only covers showing the permit and the photo ID. It doesn't cover whether or not I have to immediately inform an officer that I am carrying...

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Most sites I've found list Virginia as not having a must-inform law. You may want to just call them, but so far my search has come up 100% in that direction.

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Virginia also has the novel situation of disallowing concealed carry in a restaurant or other establishment that serves alcohol while permitting open carry in such establishments. Permit holders must either disarm or OC. Also, their law regarding posted businesses has real penalties.


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Yeah, I saw that. Fun huh?

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mrokern wrote:
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The person issued the permit shall have such permit on his person at all times during which he is carrying a concealed handgun and shall display the permit and a photo-identification issued by a government agency of the Commonwealth or by the United States Department of Defense or United States State Department (passport) upon demand by a law-enforcement officer.


Apparently, a drivers license from another state doesn't qualify. If you don't have VA id, you need a passport.


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mrokern wrote:
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The person issued the permit shall have such permit on his person at all times during which he is carrying a concealed handgun and shall display the permit and a photo-identification issued by a government agency of the Commonwealth or by the United States Department of Defense or United States State Department (passport) upon demand by a law-enforcement officer.


Apparently, a drivers license from another state doesn't qualify. If you don't have VA id, you need a passport.
Yup, in theory. In practice, it'd be real, real hard to find a cop who both a: knew that technicality and b: wanted to make it a problem for a person with a valid DL and outstate carry permit.

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There have been some cases where VA cops have arrested people with out-of-state permits out of a mistaken belief that there is no reciprocity with other states, at all, passport or no. The last report of this I saw was about a year ago, though, and perhaps things have improved.

The overall level of awareness and acceptance of carry by LEOs in Minnesota is higher than most other places, as near as I can tell.


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IANAL

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... d+18.2-308

Section H (quoted earlier) appears to only apply to the resident Virginia Permit to Carry.

Because the following are spelled out separately, there is likely no requirement for an out of state permit holder to follow section H:

Out of state permits ("issued by another state") is covered under section P. No requirement to show or even carry ID. Not being familiar with Virginia's legalese, I cannot tell if it continues after section P1. (Is P1 a subdivision? or it's own separate section?)

Non-resident permits are covered under P1. This section specifically includes the requirements of carrying the permit only. No other ID appears to be required.

Is the typical police officer going to have any idea about any of this? No. "Permit and ID please. Thank you."


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