Here it is "gun show bill" HF953
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Mosin
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Post subject:  Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:58 pm |
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singhcr
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:59 pm |
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Thank you for bringing this bill to my attention. It seems there is no rest for the vigilant among us.
I have sent letters to all of the representatives in that committee. I hope the bill dies there.
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BigBlue
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:16 pm |
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My Republican representative and senator (from a NW metro district) have been contacted and are staunchly against this bill. They understand the implications and mess it would bring.
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Lenny7
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:29 pm |
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There's DEFINITELY a lot of interest here, but in my case, I don't want my babbling to raise the noise floor.
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Mosin
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:04 am |
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I spoke with Drazkowski last night and as expected he will oppose the bill in committee.
We still need to call these 5 members and sway there votes. If you live in one of these communities, get on the horn.
If you live in any of these districts or know anyone who does, please hold your reps accountable or forward this message on to those who can.
Vice Chair: Karla Bigham (DFL) 57A 651-296-4342 rep.karla.bigham@house.mn
St. Paul Park City 5070
Newport City 3715
Cottage Grove City 17591
South St. Paul City 10027
Grey Cloud Island Township 307
Gail Kulick Jackson (DFL) 16A 651-296-6746 rep.gailkulick.jackson@house.mn
Granite Township 480
Granite Ledge Township 685
Glendorado Township 785
Greenbush Township 1135
Hillman City 29
Isle City 707
Hillman Township 164
Gilmanton Township 769
Hayland Township 490
Gilman City 215
Ronneby City 16
South Harbor Township 885
St. George Township 924
Dailey Township 246
East Side Township 731
Isle Harbor Township 590
Foreston City 389
Foley City 2154
Wahkon City 314
Mount Morris Township 90
Onamia Township 583
Onamia City 847
Mudgett Township 85
Page Township 600
Pease City 163
Borgholm Township 1140
Princeton Township 1947
Princeton City 3933
Richardson Township 485
Morrill Township 650
Leigh Township 192
Lastrup City 99
Lakin Township 409
Lewis Township 51
Maywood Township 860
Milo Township 1076
Milaca Township 1189
Milaca City 2580
Kathio Township 1309
Bradbury Township 203
Bogus Brook Township 1038
Baldwin Township 4672
Bock City 106
Alberta Township 772
Kory Kath (DFL) 26A 651-296-5368 rep.kory.kath@house.mn
Owatonna City 22434
Waseca City 8493
Woodville Township 2273
Meriden Township 631
Owatonna Township 771
Clinton Falls Township 452
Lemond Township 510
Deerfield Township 693
Blooming Grove Township 523
Sandra Masin (DFL) 38A 651-296-3533 rep.sandra.masin@house.mn
Eagan City 25642
Burnsville City 10955
Paul Rosenthal (DFL) 41B 651-296-7803 rep.paul.rosenthal@house.mn
Bloomington City 25789
Edina City 10018
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Mosin
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:28 am |
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I spoke with Rep. Paul Rosenthal (DFL 41B) about this last night at our hearing.
Me: "Rep. Rosenthal, good to finally meet you. I've left several messages and emails regarding House File 953 with your office. I'd love a chance to discuss this bill with you."
PR: "Yes, definitely. Did you get a time scheduled."
Me: "No, not yet. Your assistant said she would bring the messages to your attention."
PR: "Oh, I haven't seen them yet. What was this regarding?"
Me: "HF953 Paymar's bill regarding transfer of pistols. I believe you are a co-author of it."
PR: Startled look "I'm not familiar with that one. If I am a co-author, I shouldn't be."
Basically his comment threw me for such a loop I didn't know what to say. I'll follow up with his office today...
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http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution ... rview.html
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Mosin
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:30 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:33 pm |
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Moved it to a slightly smaller committee which may be more innocuous sounding ...
8 members of the committee listed.
2 as co-authors and Debra Hilstrom was listed as a co-author prior, right?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:51 pm |
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plblark wrote: Moved it to a slightly smaller committee which may be more innocuous sounding ... That's fine. When we start calling, it's fewer calls to make.
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Mosin
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:54 pm |
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plblark wrote: Moved it to a slightly smaller committee which may be more innocuous sounding ...
8 members of the committee listed.
2 as co-authors and Debra Hilstrom was listed as a co-author prior, right? Hilstrom's actually not a co-author yet -- which surprises me.
Authors are: Paymar ; Johnson ; Rosenthal ; Hayden ; Lesch ; Kelliher ; Ruud ; Lillie ; Mullery ; Bly ; Champion ; Slocum ; Hausman
Smaller committee where 4 of 8 members have NRA 'A' grades. And only 1 member, Kory Kath, doesn't have a voting record.
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http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution ... rview.html
http://LibertyMinnesota.com
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:20 pm |
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I suspect Hilstrom will not become a co-author ... make the other side count their votes and wonder. leaves her for the spoiler.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:28 pm |
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I sent an email this afternoon and got my first reply.
Quote: Dear Jason,
Thank you for your comments and concerns about HF #953. This is an unwarranted restriction on our rights. It seriously erodes our second amendment rights by placing unreasonable restrictions on the transfer of firearms and it will shut down gun shows as we know them.
The bill will severely curtail legitimate trade in firearms by law-abiding citizens and adds fees to the permit to purchase applicant and the dealer. It eliminates the exemption for the transfer of antique firearms and sadly, it appears that it will make it illegal to give someone a weapon as a gift.
I will be opposing this bill and fight this ridiculous and unneeded legislation.
Ron Shimanski
State Rep. Ron Shimanski
District 18A
227 State Office Building
St. Paul, MN 55155
651-296-1534
800-920-5882
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:31 pm |
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here's what I sent out personalized to each rep:
Quote: Representative [insert name here],
I am writing today to urge you to oppose House File 953, which is scheduled to be heard by the House Crime Victims/Criminal Records Division Committee on Friday.
This bill was designed to not only regulate the sale of firearms at gun shows, but to regulate the sale of firearms between law-abiding persons, all across Minnesota. We already have 4 other laws covering the sale of firearms to prohibited people. We don't need another one. As a whole, HF 953 will only affect law-abiding gun owners, and in no way keeps guns out of the hands of criminals.
A particularly troublesome provision in HF 953 creates a de facto registration system by requiring records of all transfers to be maintained by the state. These records would be made available to all authorities, including for use in “civil” cases, which are often brought by anti-gun government officials and are designed to damage or interfere with lawful commerce in firearms.
HF 953 is a direct attack on Minnesota’s gun rights. It also changes the transferee permit from a free background check to an accounting nightmare of actual cost + $5. One need only look at the discrepancies in the BCA Carry Permit report to see how easily the citizens could be inconvenienced and how out of control a single sheriff could get in charging fees.
This bill is pure harassment of legitimate gun owners and their non-commercial disposition of their property because, as a 2008 empirical study by Uiversity of Maryland criminologists demonstrates , it will have NO EFFECT on homicides or suicides and provide NO REDUCTION in firearm-related deaths (or violent crime, for that matter). All it will do is impose unnecessary deprivation of liberty, hassle, delay, and cost on Minnesota’s 1.5 million legitimate gun owners.
I ask your assistance in opposing this bill in Committee.
Thank you,
Paul Bxxxxxx
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Post subject: Remember to mention cost Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:36 am |
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In these times of huge budget shortfall, another point to mention in communications against this bill are the costs. Record keeping and other administration this bill would requires will cost money. New money.
The costs are what got the most traction with my DFL Senator last year and we weren't facing what we are this year.
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kimberman
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:32 pm |
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Get your friends in Owatonna to focus on this guy. His vote is crucial!
Kory Kath (DFL) District 26A 651-296-5368 rep.kory.kath@house.mn leaning against HF953 ?
PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO ALL LISTS.
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