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Author:  kimberman [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:56 am ]
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The Second Amendment and its impact on the United States and beyond
Gracia Rosemary Richter, Ramsey, Minn., Wadena Pioneer Journal
Published Thursday, October 02, 2008
(Editor’s note: the author, a 10th grader, is the granddaughter of Don and Margaret Richter of Wadena.)


Read the entire Editorial at:

http://www.wadenapj.com/articles/index. ... 894895e7b7

Author:  sheepdog [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:15 am ]
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Can you post the text of the editorial? Site requires registration :x

Author:  mnglocker [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:17 am ]
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The Second Amendment and its impact on the United States and beyond
Gracia Rosemary Richter, Ramsey, Minn., Wadena Pioneer Journal
Published Thursday, October 02, 2008
(Editor’s note: the author, a 10th grader, is the granddaughter of Don and Margaret Richter of Wadena.)


In 1789, after the Declaration of Independence was written, our founding fathers wanted to empower the public citizen with the ability to further define and secure their rights by writing another document to compliment the Constitution. The Bill of Rights is the second half of a two-part document that outlines the founding structure of America. This structure defines who we are as Americans and continues to mold our daily lives.

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This structure makes life in America unique and set apart from all other countries of the world. It is such an integral part of who we are that we don’t think about living without it, like the beating of our hearts. The Bill of Rights ensures that our declaration of independence is protected and saves our basic freedoms. These “freedoms” may seem to have been given to this generation as a gift, but this is far from accurate. These rights were earned on several bloody battlefields through out the years, by other founding fathers, who sacrificed with their lives. These rights would not or could not possibly exist without one special amendment, the right to bear arms, our Second Amendment.

As we grow into a more global society, many people seem to forget it is a privilege to live in a unique society with freedoms. Instead, we seem to want to continue the melting pot experience on a world wide scale which will diminish our uniqueness as Americans. Many other countries have admired our way of life and have even used our Constitution as a model for their own. These countries, France for example, are hundreds of years older than the United States and they still hadn’t found a fair and just way to govern their people. After witnessing our Constitution in action, they emulated it. Many other countries in turmoil still benefit from the example of the United States and they desire and strive to imitate it. Of course this will not happen until they implement the structures that preserves basic human rights in a dignified manner.

Recently, in my home state of Minnesota, we were given the right to obtain a license to carry a concealed handgun. Contrary to public fears from the anti-gun lobby, crime rates from those licensed individuals have not gone up as predicted. In many cases, one in which happened less than 15 minutes from my home, guns have preserved and protected human life. An elderly man, living alone and not able to afford a telephone, had two teenage boys break into his home. He was in his bedroom at night and shot one of the boys as he entered the home. Although there was much controversy at the time of the incident, everyone interviewed on our liberal television news said that he acted justly. The dead boy’s own parents said they would have done the same thing.

It is normal human behavior to protect one’s life and home. Even animals have natural instincts to prolong life and defend their territory to increase the longevity and survival of their kind. Why are we threatened with losing this right and told we no longer need it in this day and age. Now, more than ever, we need them. It is unjust that law abiding citizens have to obtain permits for something we are granted in the Bill of Rights, but it also provides information showing that responsible gun users are not the ones in need of changed legislation.

Australia and Switzerland give us a new insight of how a change in law will change our lives. According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics in 1996, after a publicized shooting, the Australian government put a ban on weapons. Immediately after the ban, armed robberies rose by 73 percent, assaults by 17 percent, and manslaughter by 29 percent. This information was also reported by the Second Amendment Foundation. It’s clear that if citizens are no longer law abiding, laws to punish them in particular should be created. Rewriting our society’s framework to accommodate the action of criminals will slowly deteriorate the structure which supports us all. The desire to ensure our safety is a concern to everybody, but it is illogical to change the actions of law abiding citizens in the process. Their actions should not be the cause of fear. If we dumb down laws to accommodate the less responsible or the dangerous we are degrading our entire society. This will only bring about less security for our infrastructure.

The other example, also reported by the Second Amendment Foundation, is about Switzerland. The government in Switzerland has a “no interference policy” and doesn’t restrict its citizen from owning firearms. This position has created an interesting situation, the Swiss are some of the most heavily armed people in the world and as a country they have some of the lowest crime rates. This does not seem to follow the logic of the anti-gun lobby, but it makes perfect sense to me. If those two young men had known that the man’s house they were breaking into was armed, they would not have broken into it. How more logical is that, they would have been protecting their own lives.

By teaching and helping understand gun-control we can make America and the world a safer place or as Benjamin Franklin put it, “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety, nor, are they likely to end up with either.”

Author:  sheepdog [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:31 pm ]
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Thank you for posting that. It's a VERY well written article.

Author:  gman1868 [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:35 pm ]
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sheepdog wrote:
Can you post the text of the editorial? Site requires registration :x


http://www.bugmenot.com/

Works great for alot of sites that require registration.

Author:  Carbide Insert [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:00 pm ]
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Recently, in my home state of Minnesota, we were given the right to obtain a license to carry a concealed handgun.


Sigh. :bang:

Author:  SultanOfBrunei [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:18 pm ]
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Carbide Insert wrote:
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Recently, in my home state of Minnesota, we were given the right to obtain a license to carry a concealed handgun.

Sigh. :bang:

Which part hurts the most?
a) "recently"
b) "were given the right"
c) "license to carry a concealed handgun"

Author:  jdege [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:26 pm ]
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SultanOfBrunei wrote:
Which part hurts the most?
a) "recently"
b) "were given the right"
c) "license to carry a concealed handgun"

Does the phrase "endowed by their Creator" ring a bell?

Author:  tman065 [ Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:45 pm ]
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SultanOfBrunei wrote:
Carbide Insert wrote:
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Recently, in my home state of Minnesota, we were given the right to obtain a license to carry a concealed handgun.

Sigh. :bang:

Which part hurts the most?
a) "recently"
b) "were given the right"
c) "license to carry a concealed handgun"


I think you missed this part I urge you to keep reading:

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It is unjust that law abiding citizens have to obtain permits for something we are granted in the Bill of Rights...

Author:  SultanOfBrunei [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:44 am ]
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I agree with you guys.

SultanOfBrunei wrote:
Which part hurts the most?
a) "recently" - I do not consider 2003 recent
b) "were given the right" - you cannot be granted a God-given right
c) "license to carry a concealed handgun" - the permit to carry does not require concealment

Author:  ree [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:28 am ]
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a) "recently" - I do not consider 2003 recent

And 2003 isn't even when permitting began. Please read Aldred's summary of MN carry here. We've always had the right to carry in some capacity and we've had permits since 1975.

While it sucks to see people in our own community refer to it as "conceal carry," it sucks even more that so many believe (especially within our community) that everything happened as a result of the MCPPA/MPPA.

I'm not faulting the 10th grader as she's just a 10th grader still. And I'm definitely not trying to diminish the importance of the '03/'05 MPPA. But anyone who's been through a decent P2C class should have gotten enough of a primer on the history MN carry to know that something existed pre-2003 and that, as good as it is today, it's still not pre-1975.

Author:  SultanOfBrunei [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:43 am ]
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ree wrote:
...We've always had the right to carry in some capacity and we've had permits since 1975...

Well, I certainly know about may-issue/shall-issue. I pointed to 2003 as the timeframe of what was being discussed in the article.

However, I did not know that prior to 1975 no permits were required.

Author:  ree [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:48 am ]
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SultanOfBrunei wrote:
However, I did not know that prior to 1975 no permits were required.

I wasn't really picking on you as I knew you know (I did remove your name from the quote). I was picking on those who don't...you can take the 5th if you learned something from Alfred's summary.

Author:  Carbide Insert [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:30 am ]
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It is unjust that law abiding citizens have to obtain permits for something we are granted in the Bill of Rights...


Yep, I caught that reading through the first time. That nonsense always jumps right out of the page at me.

I thought, however, that I'd just focus one comment on the writer's ability to masterful ability to skillfully include the three falsities mentioned into a mere single sentence:

tman065 wrote:
Which part hurts the most?
a) "recently"
b) "were given the right"
c) "license to carry a concealed handgun"

Author:  Andrew Rothman [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:52 pm ]
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Seems like mostly hair-splitting. The student could have written:

"About five and a half years ago, Minnesotans were partially relieved of the unconstitutional infringement of their right to carry a handgun, and can now do so, either openly or concealed, though probably 55,000 of the 55,154 do so concealed, upon obtaining a permit."

But it doesn't read as well.

Explaining complicated things to a naive audience requires some simplification. Live with it.

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