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Dave Pendleton
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Post subject: From WCCO.com Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:18 am |
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Good To Know: What's American About Murder?
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Don Shelby (WCCO)
There was political talk last week about un-American views. One candidate called for a media investigation of some members of Congress and one presidential contender. Don Shelby said the candidate missed her target.
A couple of skinheads planned to kill 88 black students, decapitate 14 of them and end it all with the assassination of Barack Obama. I worry about people like that. I know they're out there.
People who think they can save America by killing people they don't like. I've covered them. They are, as a class, marginalized, powerless, uneducated, rage-filled and they maintain an insane sense of patriotism. And they are armed.
I want to say they are un-American, but my fear is that they actually represent an ugly part of America we haven't figured out how to change. Columbine, Springfield, Jonesboro, Dallas, Memphis, Red Lake.
The next president has to fix the economy, solve Iraq … the plate is already full. Who will fix the problem of weapons in the hands of warped and deadly Americans?
http://wcco.com/goodtoknow/good.to.know.2.850125.html
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:23 am |
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SultanOfBrunei
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:05 am |
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I don't think those guys actually had weapons, did they?
I thought their plan was to rob a gun store to aquire the weapons for their killing spree.
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atripp
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:16 pm |
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I cant stand reading or watching anything DFL Don Shelby has to say.
_________________ "The two worse sounds in the world are a boom when you expect a click and a click when you expect a boom."
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Srigs
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:06 pm |
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We should ask DFL Don if he like freedom?
If yes, then it will never change.
If no, then it could but the bad guys will only be the government.
_________________ Srigs
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"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking" - George S. Patton
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Scott Hughes
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:25 pm |
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IMHO - Don Shelby is a 4th rate newsman for a 4th rate news channel.
For me POMPOUS *** best describes Shelby.
_________________ “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
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WITHOUT LIBERTY THERE IS NO FREEDOM
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Magnum Mikie
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:22 pm |
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Kind of a shame that Shelby is a dem. I've heard him talk about hunting and fishing. I wonder how he'd like hunting WITHOUT firearms.
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sigman
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:46 pm |
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Unfortunately, their solution involves taking firearms away from all law abiding citizens, for the good of the children, of course.
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gunflint
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:52 pm |
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Obama's "Brown Shirts" will put an end to groups like that. In fact I hear that he's going to save us all from ourselves.
_________________ "I wish it to be remembered that I was the last man of my tribe to surrender my rifle" Sitting Bull
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havegunjoe
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:44 am |
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SultanOfBrunei wrote: I don't think those guys actually had weapons, did they?
I thought their plan was to rob a gun store to aquire the weapons for their killing spree.
I don’t know for sure but I did see a picture of one of them holding some kind of “assault weapon”. They must have had some guns I would guess.
_________________ DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH. LIBERTY IS A WELL ARMED LAMB CONTESTING THE VOTE.
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gyrfalcon
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:15 pm |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: It is hard for some people to understand that perfect "safety" can only come with the complete, totalitarian loss of freedom.
There is no such thing as perfect safety even with a totalitarian government and a complete loss of freedom. Besides the general criminals that exist in all societies, the government can also become a threat.
Look at the Ukraine famine when Stalin forced the people into collective farms.
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Q_Continuum
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:01 pm |
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havegunjoe wrote: SultanOfBrunei wrote: I don't think those guys actually had weapons, did they?
I thought their plan was to rob a gun store to aquire the weapons for their killing spree. I don’t know for sure but I did see a picture of one of them holding some kind of “assault weapon”. They must have had some guns I would guess.
Yeah, I seem to recall they had like 3 weapons, I believe one was a short-barreled shotgun that wasn't registered, and two "normal" firearms...and the plan was to rob a gunshop to procure more.
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peckerhead
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:49 pm |
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That idiot (DFL Don) has so little credibility left these days, I doubt he even believes himself anymore. This is just more of his nonsense.
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Dee
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:58 am |
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Quote: There is no such thing as perfect safety even with a totalitarian government and a complete loss of freedom. Besides the general criminals that exist in all societies, the government can also become a threat.
Absolutely correct!
Stalin killed something like 16 million of his own people with impunity. Quite a bit more than Hitler did.
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gunflint
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:57 am |
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It's hard to imagine where people like skinheads get their values. That is until you see pictures of Black Panthers blocking polling places in Philadelphia, and no one doing anything about it.
_________________ "I wish it to be remembered that I was the last man of my tribe to surrender my rifle" Sitting Bull
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