HEADS UP HF3324/SF2989.........bad bills
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princewally
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Post subject:  Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:02 pm |
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So how does this:
Quote: I concur that individuals (as opposed to commercial transactions) being required to go through a dealer is an onerous proposal. work with this: Quote: closing the gun show loophole. After all, the "gunshow loophole" is just private transactions between people who aren't dealers.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:21 pm |
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Jeremiah wrote: Sen. Satveer Chaudhary wrote: In its current form yes. I don't have a problem with keeping guns out
of the hands of mental patients and closing the gun show loophole.
Not 100%, but certainly better than a pro-registration answer... So ask him (:)) why requiring "individuals" at a kitchen table to go through a dealer is onerous, but the exact same "individuals" at a gun show are exploiting a "loophole."
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ttousi
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:32 pm |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: Jeremiah wrote: Sen. Satveer Chaudhary wrote: In its current form yes. I don't have a problem with keeping guns out
of the hands of mental patients and closing the gun show loophole.
Not 100%, but certainly better than a pro-registration answer... So ask him (:)) why requiring "individuals" at a kitchen table to go through a dealer is onerous, but the exact same "individuals" at a gun show are exploiting a "loophole." They love the "loophole" terminology.............makes them look like they are closing down something that people are "getting away with" 
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Jeremiah
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:37 pm |
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I did ask him, and I await his reply. 
If nothing else, he gets props for prompt responses.
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Jeremiah
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:38 am |
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And his reply:
Sen. Satveer Chaudhary wrote: Thats a commercial transaction in my book, same as any other store.
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:46 am |
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The dialog is open... now for some leading and hand holding.
At a store, the owner or his representative is the "commercial" interest. The customers or people in the store are just private parties.
Let's say Jim has a car Bob wants. Since it's legal As long as Jim isn't selling enough cars to make him a Dealer, it doesn't matter where they do the transaction.
If Jim Sells Bob a Car while in line at a convenience store, that doesn't make the store owner responsible nor does it make the store a Car Dealership. They're completely separate.
Since it's legal for two private parties to transfer a firearm, given that neither is a prohibited person and the seller isn't selling enough to make him a dealer, it should not matter where they make the transaction.
Doing the transaction at a location where people with similar interests are likely to gather just makes sense and is completely legal. The venue does not modify the transaction between private parties. The show operator is not involved. No FFL is involved. It's a private transaction of legal goods between persons legal to posses them.
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Dick Unger
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:41 am |
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After they close the "gunshow" loophole, they'll discover the "backyard" and "family gift" loophole.
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:10 am |
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but it's BEAUTIFUL... this bill accomplishes all that with the simple expedient of "Calling" it a close the gunshow loophole bill. It's all that AND a box of cracker jacks.
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iblong
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:29 pm |
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I sent out emails Monday and like others I recieved about 30 replys mostly bulk. and the other were word for word what others here have posted.
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