From this morning's Strib comes an excellent article borrowed from the Chicago Tribune.

That was actually printed in a Chicago paper..........

Gotta check and see if that was a flock of pigs that just flew by

Laws alone can't stop violence: "Obama" ( I will just call him Barry)

April 25, 2008Recommend (10)

BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter/apallasch@suntimes.com
In a sit-down interview with the Sun-Times, White House hopeful Barack Obama said Thursday he has been following with great concern the gun violence that has plagued the city in recent weeks.

"The news has just been heart-breaking," Obama said after a speech to union members at McCormick Place. "I've asked my staff to contact the Chicago Police Department, and I'm going to put in a call to the mayor just to find out just what is accounting for this huge uptick."

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Obama said elected officials can help by restoring federal funding to put more police on the street and passing more gun-control legislation, such as better background checks for gun purchasers. But laws alone can't change things -- some parents have to get more involved in their children's lives, he said.

"Children have to be taught right and wrong, and violence isn't a way to resolve problems," Obama said. "Kids have to be kept off the streets at night. A lot of these kids, unfortunately, they might not have parents at home who are helping to give them guidance."

Obama, who had trouble with gun owners in Pennsylvania and other states, said he has never supported a blanket ban on handguns but favors letting local officials enact gun regulation appropriate for their areas. Banning guns has not always proven effective, he said.


Q&A with Obama
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama sat down with Sun-Times Political Reporter Abdon M. Pallasch on Thursday to discuss the rash of gun violence in Chicago that included the killing of five people in one house on Wednesday:

Sun-Times: Have you been following the news of all the gun deaths?

Barack Obama: The news has just been heart-breaking. I've asked my staff to contact the Chicago Police Department. and I'm going to put in a call to the mayor just to find out just what is accounting for this huge uptick.

S-T: Is there anything the federal, state, or local government can do?

B.O.: There's a bunch of things we can do. I've already said as president I want to restore [federal] COPS funding, which will put police on the streets. Additional police improves public safety. New York has seen a huge drop in crime over the last decade, more than even other cities, and part of it is they've got more cops than anybody else per capita. We've got to help local communities put more police on the streets. We want to make sure we provide state and local government with the targeting information they need, the technology they need to make sure police are going to the places most at risk for gun violence. We've got to tighten up our gun laws. I've said before we should have a much tougher background check system, one that's much more effective and make sure there aren't loopholes out there like the gun show loophole. [Or] The Tiahart Amendment [requiring destruction of gun-purchase records.] Here's an example of something common-sense: The ATF [federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms] should be able to share info with local communities about where guns are coming from, tracing guns that are used in criminal activity. It's been blocked consistently in Congress. As president, I'm gong to make sure we know if guns are being sold by unscrupulous gun dealers not abiding by existing laws. We should know about that.

Finally, we've got to deal with the underlying social issues that are causing this gun violence as well. You've got gangs of young men who are lost, who are involved in the drug trade. Starting early with early childhood education, improving our K-through-12 education, having after-school programs or summer-school programs so we are providing pathways for young people to move in the right direction.

As president, we've got to be able to help local communities put those programs in place.

S-T: In Gary [Ind.,] and in Beaumont, Texas, you talked about parents doing a better job parenting. Is that applicable here?

B.O.: Absolutely. That's what I refer to when I say we've got to get to the underlying problems here. Children have to be taught right and wrong and violence isn't a way to resolve problems. Kids have to be kept off the streets at night. Transmitting those values is important. A lot of these kids unfortunately they might not have parents at home who are helping to give them guidance. Their communities themselves are wracked with violence. They're seeing it every day going down the streets. The role of the community, the churches, other institutions, instilling a different sensibility in our young people -- that's got to be part of the solution as well.

S-T: The Washington, D.C. [handgun ban] case before the U.S. Supreme Court you were asked about at the debate -- have you have a chance to look into that more?

B.O.: My view continues to be that the constitution, I believe, does provide a right to bear arms; but that local communities, and state governments, as well as the federal government, have a right to common-sense regulations and firearm ownership [rules.] The truth is, obviously, the ban here in Chicago, the ban in D.C. is not keeping the guns out of our cities, and so I'm interested in just figuring out what works and I'm confident we can come up with laws that work and that pass constitutional muster and don't infringe on the rights of lawful gun owners whether it's in Downstate Illinois or rural Montana.

S-T: As a state legislator, you voted against a bill which would let people with orders of protection [against others] carry guns and another that would have barred municipalities from punishing people who kept guns in their homes. Why?

B.O.: I felt that [the first one] was a precedent for conceal-and-carry laws. There has not been any evidence that allowing people to carry a concealed weapon is going to make anybody safer. [The second one] is relevant to the D.C. handgun issue. I wanted to preserve the right of local communities to enforce local ordinances and this would have overturned municipalities being able to enforce their own ordinances. We can argue about whether the ordinances work or not. But I wanted to make sure that local communities were recognized as having a right to regulate firearms.

S-T: But you don't want to take a stand on the D.C. gun-ban law?

B.O.: I don't like taking a stand on pending cases.
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B. O. ............ good handle for him, since most of what he says stinks

JohninMinnesota: Tell us oh wise one, what will fix our societies ills?

B.O. full of B.S.: I'm all for putting a father and mother into every household. That's part of the problem. I'm all for putting more police on the streets. It is what works better than the gun bans. We need more police, and mothers and fathers. If you are a single parent household, I think we should be putting another parent in that household to make sure that the children get all the parenting the government can pay for. AND, we will enforce that with more police. More police to enforce the two parent household laws we will pass. And let's let the municipalities create their own gun bans. Airsoft guns being banned hasn't always worked. It is because the single parent households have been allowed to flourish, and we haven't had enough police busting the children who make terroristic threats with the AirSoft guns because the single parent households can't raise a child like the state can. We need more laws to regulate these things to make our society a better place. And more police. More police to enforce the laws we create against children and families.

JohninMinnesota: So, you are against gun bans, because they don't always work?

B.O. full of B.S.: I don't like to talk about things that could give people insight into my socialistic agenda. Just suffice to say, we need more municipalities making more rules banning guns, like the AirSoft ban. That has all but eliminated terrorists. As President, I would make sure that municipal governments have the freedom to legislate the hell out of things they don't like. Like Chicago, where I will talk to the Mayor, and I will talk to the Million Mom's and we can create some new laws that will keep the guns out of the hands of the criminals with more police and more laws to keep two parents in the households so kids can be kept in the house where they can't get into trouble. More COPS per capita to keep the cop to illegitimate child ratio high.

JohninMinnesota (drinking heavily now, and looking desperately ill): So, as President, you will make sure that the bad things that are occurring will be eliminated with more police and more regulations?

B.O. full of B.S.: Absolutely. We don't want to set any precedence for personal accountability. There has never been any evidence that people being responsible for themselves has worked. As President, I will make sure the state, and the local governments are pressured into limiting any possibility that citizens will be allowed to make decisions about their own personal safety. More police. More laws protecting the police, and more regulations keeping children in at night.

[Guffaw!]

Magnum Mikie: So Senator Obama, let's say you are in your home and it's late at night and you don't have "secret service" protection. That's right, NO bodyguard. Now, you hear someone kicking in your front door. Hmmm, what would you rather have in your hand, a telephone OR a handgun?

Obama: Why do you think I want to be president? The president is provided with "secret service" protection.

Warning: This note contains name calling, truth telling, personal attacks against politicians, and opinions that may offend you if you are not willing to face the facts. Of course, all in my opinion which I welcome you to challenge.

I heard a news story about the gun violence in Chicago last night. They noted that getting rid of the concentrated high rises that were hangouts for the drug thugs caused them to scurry into the surrounding neighborhoods. This is a most shocking, revealing and insightful observation... one that entimologists, and many homeowners have made about cockroaches... a similar creature of opportunity. This striking bit of knowledge brings about new assumptions about criminals. They aren't likely to stop being criminals without some kind of compelling reason. A risk assesment of their behavioral patterns currently tells them that since guns are banned and most citizens follow the laws, and cops aren't everywhere all the time, they can use a weapon to increase their odds of a successful crime outcome for themselves. Are they concerned about getting caught? Of course! That is yet another reason to use a weapon... if they have to, they can run, shoot and run, or just shoot to eliminate the threat. Illogic? Yes, to a non-criminal who is not willing to risk freedom for a short term gain.

I wonder if this simpleton - Barack Hussein Obama Bin Blabbin - will ever get to the conclusion that given enough space, time and opportunity, criminals will quickly take advantage of the weaknesses of the society they live in. Just like in prisons - you better have a good defense, like belonging to a gang or having a build like a granite statue, or you will be victimized.

I wonder if it will ever dawn on this cretin B. Hussein O., that the most effective way to deal with thugs with guns is to give them certain swift retribution - like the castle doctrine. When grandpa has a gun pointing at mr. thugly, mr. thugly gives ol gramps a lot more creds...

I wonder if Barack Hussein BlahBlahOBama will ever consider that Chicago is a cesspool of crime because criminals have the advantage?

I wonder if this imbecile will ever consider that supporting a "victim mentality" in poor neighborhoods is the best way to cause those people to feel justified in their anger and malice towards society... ala the LA riots (slowed by gun owners by the way).

I bet Ol Rev. Wright's speeches about how the black man has been pushed down and victimized by whitey are ringing in Barack Hussein O.'s ears when he makes statements about rural folks clinging to their guns and religion and resentments towards illegals. I'll bet. I'll bet they are also ringing in his ears when he considers the criminal elements of his home town, how they aren't the problem - no we need more laws, and regulations and less guns... yeah that will solve the problem. Oh, and let's give them some jobs and more assistance, and free healthcare. That will make them feel better and they will stop being so mean if they feel better.

Hillary Hussein Clinton will more than likely come to the same conclusions... and John Hussein McCain... him too. What we need is a leader who is willing to address the real problem. Criminals. How about that?

And now, the news is, they are going to issue new M-4 rifles to the cops in Chicago. Is this going to help stop crime? What a bunch of freaking morons... WE ARE for letting these whackos run our country!


sigh.

Boy, you're on a roll today. Good stuff.

+1

Yep, John nailed it. Regarding the only remaining major candidates, my choice was the only one with a carry permit. Mike Huckabee. Huckabee understood the meaning of self-preservation.

Regarding Hussein Obama's home state: How soon they forget about the Morton Grove ordeal back in the early 80's. Here's a transcript and pay special attention to post 1985.

http://www.webrary.org/Ref/handgunchron.html

LOL B.O. is so anti that even Hillary looks pro-gun as she talks about apocryphal duck hunts and shootin' with grandpa behind the shed. LOL there's nothing like an election year to bring out the whoppers, BS, tall tales, and comically unbelievable testimonies.