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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:38 pm 
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There seems to be an effort brewing over on the arfcom hometown forum to get supressors legalized in Minnesota, Link

I don't think this is something that would be impossible to accomplish. Does anyone have any suggestions on how best go go about making this happen? Does anyone see any negative issues with doing this? Does anyone want to help?

AR15 manufacturer, CMMG, recently helped get them legalized in MO. Would this angle play out well here in MN?
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On #4 above, the economic development angle, it worked very well for us as we are in a depressed region in our state and according to Eco-Devo figures, 10 new jobs in my area are equal to 100 new jobs in St. Louis. JOBS GET ATTENTION. Statewide, just from additional sales, not even manufacturing will increase personal. Having a company like DPMS being able to chase a large contract that includes suppressors and rifles is a great example. Here in MO, we couldn't even obtain a sample can. How would we be able to win a 50 or 5000 piece turnkey contract if it has to go through a sole-source provider?


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i think it would be great. i shoot out at my parents house alot and they live in a city with absolutly no gun ordances. its perfectly legal but every time the neihbors always call the cops on me. i always shoot in a safe direction. but i never fails i go shoot and then the cops show up. it would be nice to shoot and not have to waist my time and the local police time. i would be glad to help out, not to sure on how to go about getting them legal but if you need some help let me know.


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This is one of the first things I looked up when we decided to move to MN and I was greatly disappointed that I couldn't use a suppressor there. We'll be there in less than 3 weeks, and while I think finding a job and getting unpacked should probably take precedent over political activism, I too would be quite willing to help out in any way I can in any effort to overturn this asinine law. Feel free to contact me via PM any time about this issue - I'd love to be a part of getting rid of illogical laws in my new home!

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I like this idea. If it is practical or not is another issue.


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with all the older shooters having hearing problems now, it seems to make sense to legalize them to help younger shooters prevent such hearing losses.

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It is odd but you can buy them by mail order in the UK and most of anti-gun Europe. They are advertised in all the hunting magazines. The courteous hunter tries not to disturb his neighbors.

Only the USA has noise-supressorphobia.


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1930's gangstra-phobia. If Capone uses one, it must be bad.

The ban is part of the federal NFA (which DOES allow them) and the thought of them made Warren Spannus' DFL bladder leak so they are banned to all but police (who claim to need them to kill dogs).


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(who claim to need them to kill dogs).


That is what I need one for also.


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I have one fear about suppressors, in that the do gooders decide that they are mandatory at some point. no hunting unless you have one, as its damaging to the kid's hearing. No shooting within a mile of residence because of the noise.


Believe me I want them, but I am realist enough that somewhere OSHA or someone will decide no shooting in an indoor range because it damages the staff hearing etc.

My father has one I bought him in florida, its wonderful for dispatching the various critters that forage around the garbage dumpsters and private homes down there. pop-CLINK clack. the slide working makes far more noise than the .22 does.

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I have one fear about suppressors, in that the do gooders decide that they are mandatory at some point. no hunting unless you have one, as its damaging to the kid's hearing. No shooting within a mile of residence because of the noise.

There we go, a possible negative blowback. What is the possible likelyhood of mandatory supressors? Would it be a worthwile trade-off?

While reasonable, I don't see it as something that would come about right away. Additionally I think there would be a large lobby preventing the DNR from enacting such regulations. It is certainly not something I would trade for the ability to have a supressor. I'd be likely to investigate using a supressor while hunting deer with my shotgun, required or not.


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I have one fear about suppressors, in that the do gooders decide that they are mandatory at some point. no hunting unless you have one, as its damaging to the kid's hearing. No shooting within a mile of residence because of the noise.

There we go, a possible negative blowback. What is the possible likelyhood of mandatory supressors? Would it be a worthwile trade-off?

While reasonable, I don't see it as something that would come about right away. Additionally I think there would be a large lobby preventing the DNR from enacting such regulations. It is certainly not something I would trade for the ability to have a supressor. I'd be likely to investigate using a supressor while hunting deer with my shotgun, required or not.



For shot guns, the Metro barrel concept is proven and legal. Very quiet.

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For shot guns, the Metro barrel concept is proven and legal. Very quiet.

The thought of adding an additional 24"+ to my shotgun almost makes me giggle.


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For shot guns, the Metro barrel concept is proven and legal. Very quiet.

The thought of adding an additional 24"+ to my shotgun almost makes me giggle.
You really wanna giggle, imagine a matching mag tube extension. And the pintle mount you're gonna need... :twisted:


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SultanOfBrunei wrote:
1911fan wrote:
For shot guns, the Metro barrel concept is proven and legal. Very quiet.

The thought of adding an additional 24"+ to my shotgun almost makes me giggle.
You really wanna giggle, imagine a matching mag tube extension. And the pintle mount you're gonna need... :twisted:


Yes but a 20 round shotgun would be worth it.

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