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 reason number 1 never to use a smart carry style holster.... 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:54 pm 
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First person account of the worst Imaginable AD

http://thehighroad.us/showthread.php?t=393304


Three holes in the wedding tackle and he'll never answer to "lefty" again...

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Damn,that would just ruin your whole day!!!!

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IMnsHO, Smrt Carry could use a leather or kydex shield over the gun compartment to prevent anything from contacting the trigger

Note this was from a nylon knock-off of a Smart Carry

But yeah, that HAS to hurt!

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couple inches over and that guy would not have walked 10 yards. If he shot himself in the goodies, he barely missed his femoral artery.

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I have always thought the concept was a clear violation of Rule Two

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Xavier from THR has a blog where he said this:

I want to be clear on a couple of items. First, this unfortunate injury did not happen to me. No further telephone calls or condolences to my spouse are necessary.

Second, I use the SmartCarry holster frequently with a cocked and locked 1911. I believe it is a safe and superior product. I have never had a 1911 become cocked and unlocked in it, much less discharge. Most holsters, if one looks at them critically, place some part of somebody's anatomy at risk some of the time. The difference between the holster used here and a SmartCarry holster is significant in the thickness of the material surrounding the firearm. That bit of thickness protecting the trigger makes all the difference.

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Before I'm willing to carry any gun in a SmartCarry or Thunderwear, it's my unvarying policy to (after unloading, checking repeatedly, you know the drill, and I follow the drill) try that gun in the holster and try to make it click -- holstering, trying to catch the trigger on something, bending, whatever.

So far, even with a cocked-and-unlocked Ultra Carry, I haven't been able to. (I don't carry Officers-sized in such holsters; they're uncomfortable for me when sitting down, and I'm pretty much DAO revolver-only for that sort of thing, anyway, but that's another matter.)

Same thing, by the way, with any new holster. I want to be sure that I can holster the gun slowly or rapidly (yes, I know there's never any reason to rapidly holster a gun, but I'm not assuming that I'd never do it with the adrenaline pumping) without the undesired click.

So far, so good.

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Nah, that's reason number one to never to use a cheap-ass knockoff of a reputable, time-tested design.

[Edit: And, as so often happens, Joel beat me to it, and said it better.]

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I use a Smartcarry holster when I'm in my PJs mostly so I don't have to have pants and belt. If I have a belt on, I use one of mine. :wink:

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 Post subject: Has anyone heard of this with the REAL Smart Carry?
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Nah, that's reason number one to never to use a cheap-ass knockoff of a reputable, time-tested design.

[Edit: And, as so often happens, Joel beat me to it, and said it better.]


Does anyone know of any similar problems with Smart Carry? I'm sort of inclined to agree with the folks saying that this is no reason to by a KNOCKOFF of it but I think we should be careful not to lump Smart Carry in with this as it wasn't their holster. IMHO


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That story is the main reason I never carry anything except a revolver IWB or in a pocket. Maybe not impossible to AD a revolver but it's pretty hard.

My autos are always OWB and if I had an AD, in most cases it should hit the ground and not me.

A DA auto would probably be OK IWB but none of my normal carry autos are DA.

Just me and my feelings about being shot in delicate places. :shock:

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 Post subject: looking for SC discharges ...
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OK,

I just went through the longest forum thread I think I've ever gone through and it was all about Smart Carry. Only one person mentioned any problem with AD/ND ... he was practicing quick draw from his Smart Carry with an airsoft gun.

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin ... carry.html

I searched google with "Smart Carry" +discharge and couldn't come up with any of the responses in the first couple pages that showed an actual accidental discharge. Most people were worried about it but I didn't see any topics where an AD/ND happened.


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Just read this one on an AD from a SmartCarry copy.... Makes me hurt...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=393304

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Uh, yeah. That was the story that started this thread. :)

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Just read this one on an AD from a SmartCarry copy.... Makes me hurt...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=393304

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