Mpls SWAT Manages to Not Quite Kill Innocent Family
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joelr
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Post subject: Mpls SWAT Manages to Not Quite Kill Innocent Family Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:43 am |
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Last edited by joelr on Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Srigs
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:57 am |
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This is the worst case scenario IMHO. Police did not check their facts before they do raids and this is what you can expect to happen. They act just like reporters not checking the "facts".
Police need to understand that doing this type of raid is unnecessary 90% of the time. All it would have taken was reverse lookup on the address to avoid two cops being shot. The home owner was lucky he was not killed.
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Last edited by Srigs on Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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4013tsw
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:34 am |
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"Dao Khang said his brother has been in contact with a lawyer and is considering legal action"
I hope they sue the crap out of them ... and win.
I am impressed that the homeowner hit his target. I would be so terrified I would probably miss, even with a shotgun.
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cobb
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:07 am |
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Here is the quote from the AP
Quote: Police hadn't determined whether charges would be filed against the shooter.
Shouldn't it read " City officals hadn't determined whether charges would be filed against the SWAT team officers."
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:04 am |
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Quote: Police blamed bad information for sending a SWAT team into a north Minneapolis house ... Bad information and shoddy or no research. Quote: Garcia told KMSP that police grabbed the family's children and shielded them during the incident.
Do you think the police grabbed and shielded the family's six children before or after bullets flew?
An aside, do SWAT teams record their operations on audio?
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J. R.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:14 am |
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Quote: Several officers returned fire, but no one in the house was injured. Anyone care to speculate on the number of rounds fired that fortunately did NOT hit the inocent family?
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princewally
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:58 am |
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ree wrote: Quote: Garcia told KMSP that police grabbed the family's children and shielded them during the incident. Do you think the police grabbed and shielded the family's six children before or after bullets flew?
Shielded, or used as shields?
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Jeff
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:58 am |
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How did homeowner get so lucky to not get killed?
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4013tsw
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:00 am |
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Quote: Garcia told KMSP that police grabbed the family's children and shielded them during the incident.Do you think the police grabbed and shielded the family's six children before or after bullets flew?
Or perhaps used family members to shield themselves?
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:00 am |
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Srigs wrote: doing this type of raid is necessary 90% of the time.
I assume you mean unnecessary...
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:20 am |
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Jeff wrote: How did homeowner get so lucky to not get killed? Far as I can tell, it's because all (or most) of the rounds were fired through a door.
Strong guess: the folks IDed in the warrant weren't Asian, and when the doorkickers kept tripping over (err... I mean, "rescuing") little Hmongs, eventually, somebody figured that they might actually be shooting up the wrong house.
"Ooops," they explained.
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:22 am |
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My 13 year old heard the story on the radio and said "Stupid cops, it was totally their fault." This without any prompting from me.
(Maybe, to keep the catalog of incidents easier to browse, you could change the thread title to something a little more descriptive Joel?)
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lance22
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:30 am |
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:32 am |
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DeanC wrote: My 13 year old heard the story on the radio and said "Stupid cops, it was totally their fault." This without any prompting from me.
(Maybe, to keep the catalog of incidents easier to browse, you could change the thread title to something a little more descriptive Joel?) Done.
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:47 am |
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clever titles aside, it does make it difficult for people to search out duplicates before posting what they think is a scoop.
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