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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:37 pm 
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019505.html

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An upset criminal suspect tells her police captor that she's glad the whole thing is on video record. He turns the camera off. It comes back on, and <a href=http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4310214 target=new>the handcuffed woman is very badly beaten, lying in a pool of blood, and must be taken away on a stretcher. The cop's lawyer claims she tripped and got two black eyes herself.</a>

It's pretty ugly. In the PD's defense, they fired the guy. However, they refused to press charges saying that no one could really know what happened.

So the next time the cops go to a domestic disturbance call and the woman is lying on the floor in a pool of her own blood with black eyes and broken teeth, while the husband says "Da bitch tripped" they won't press charges because, after all, "no one can really know what happened"?

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These guys that get fired, but not convicted, usually get reinstated, or get another police job in a different jurisdiction.


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These guys that get fired, but not convicted, usually get reinstated, or get another police job in a different jurisdiction.


So true. Sounds like federal charges of loss of civil rights might be in order. :twisted:

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He gave us a copy of the tape which first shows Garbarino asking Officer Wiley Willis for a phone call, then demanding a phone call.
As Garbarino tries to walk out the door, she's put into handcuffs. The tape later shows a scuffle, then Willis appears to shut the camera off.
When the video resumes, Garbarino is lying in a pool of her own blood.

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Late Tuesday afternoon KSLA News12 received a statement from Chief Whitehorn. He says, "After reviewing the evidence, we decided it was something that needed to be handled internally and there was not enough to pursue criminal charges."


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http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019505.html

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An upset criminal suspect tells her police captor that she's glad the whole thing is on video record. He turns the camera off. It comes back on, and <a href=http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4310214 target=new>the handcuffed woman is very badly beaten, lying in a pool of blood, and must be taken away on a stretcher. The cop's lawyer claims she tripped and got two black eyes herself.</a>

It's pretty ugly. In the PD's defense, they fired the guy. However, they refused to press charges saying that no one could really know what happened.

So the next time the cops go to a domestic disturbance call and the woman is lying on the floor in a pool of her own blood with black eyes and broken teeth, while the husband says "Da bitch tripped" they won't press charges because, after all, "no one can really know what happened"?
Well, no. Nor should they -- anymore than they should whitewash this, even with, as in this case, a think coat of whitewash.

Disgusting.

Any reasonable person would conclude that the reason the thug turned the camera off was to avoid having the beating taped. I hope twelve reasonable people end up agreeing, and hitting the cop, the department, and the city for megabucks.

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Late Tuesday afternoon KSLA News12 received a statement from Chief Whitehorn. He says, "After reviewing the evidence, we decided it was something that needed to be handled internally and there was not enough to pursue criminal charges."


I'm confussed... Here I thought the DA was in charge of deciding weather criminal charges are filed...

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I don't care what the cop's attorneys has to say about the cause of the wounds this woman suffered. A person would have to take a fall from a third story window to be that damaged. I don't care if she was unruly or any of that sort of thing either. Bashing in the face of a restrained person is just plain criminal.

I concur with Joel that there will be a MEGABUCK lawsuit, as well there should be :!: :!: :!:

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What kind of person would do this to another human being? This guy is appealing his firing? This is worse than the video of the guy being dumped from the wheel chair (and that was pretty bad). At least the woman that dump the wheel chair was charged.


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FBI involvement in Garbarino's case now promises independent review of the situation. That's something critics complain internal affairs and even a local district attorney's office can rarely fully achieve on their own.


Luckily, he's local police officer. If he was a federal agent, the FBI would whitewash it as fast as the Shreveport police chief did but more convincingly.


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I hope the officer responsible doesn't have a wife at home someplace, quietly suffering. ... it looked horrible, but those side by side shots are outlandish!

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This is why decent, honest, professional cops won't mind if they don't get to control the video. Can't expect them to like it, on a day to day basis -- although it has saved a lot of good cops from false accusations -- who likes to be watched while they work?

For those who missed the point: the badged thug turned off the video tape, and beat the handcuffed woman, leaving her in a pool of her own blood, and then claimed that she "fell". And he's going to get away with it. He's not being prosecuted; all he did was lose his job, and he may get it back -- he's suing, and his union is backing him up.

Unfortunately for him, when he turned the video camera back on, it caught him looking down at his hands to see if any of her blood was on them.

Yes, the thug has blood on his hands. It won't wash off.

Disgustingly, his union is backing him up. They've got blood on their hands, too. It won't wash off, either.

A friend of mine has repeatedly argued that I should pull the Isolated Incidents forum here. It bothers some people, he says.

I'm going to put this as mildly as I can: no way. I can't stop this sort of brutality from happening, but if I don't point at it, I'd have blood on my hands, too.

It's not just what you do that ought to haunt your conscience, if you have one; it's what you have others do in your name.

I'll let people like Ken Jones and Andy Shapero have the Lady MacBeth part, thank you very much.

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