Whoops! Officer's Gun Accidentally Fires During Arrest
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Post subject: Whoops! Officer's Gun Accidentally Fires During Arrest  Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:27 pm |
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Quote: Officer's Gun Accidentally Fires During ArrestPOSTED: 6:34 am CDT September 3, 2008 UPDATED: 7:12 am CDT September 3, 2008 GRANDVIEW, Mo. -- A police officer's gun accidentally went off during an arrest on Tuesday night, police said. Investigators said someone called police after spotting people with a gun at a strip mall in the 11900 block of Blue Ridge Boulevard in Grandview. Officers arrested two people at the scene for outstanding warrants. While they were putting one suspect in a police car, one of the officer's guns accidentally fired into the ground, police said. Both the officer and suspect suffered minor injuries when asphalt ricocheted up and hit them.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:50 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:51 pm |
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Bad praising. A gun does not "accidentally go off". A person unintentionally fired it.
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chunkstyle
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:51 pm |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: The gun fired itself! Jinx.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:15 pm |
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I'm tellin' ya - cops should just have whistles. Nobody takes one in the ass(phalt) when they "go off accidentally."
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Post subject: Re: Whoops! Officer's Gun Accidentally Fires During Arrest Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:22 pm |
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Show me state? I guess no one showed him how to properly holster his sidearm.
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gyrfalcon
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:39 pm |
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chunkstyle wrote: Bad praising. A gun does not "accidentally go off". A person unintentionally fired it. Firearms have discharged because of mechanical failures or spontaneously because of outside influences even when the safety was on.
That being said, almost all of the "accidental" discharges are because of negligence.
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Post subject: Re: Whoops! Officer's Gun Accidentally Fires During Arrest Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:35 pm |
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SultanOfBrunei wrote: Show me state? I guess no one showed him how to properly holster his sidearm. Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:54 am |
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[Do not modify quotes - AR]
Fixed it for you, ALL unintentional discharges are negligence, not ensuring your firearms are in serviceable condition and not likely to "ehem...self discharge" is also negligence, including self or even poor gunsmithing. If it goes bang for any reason other than you deliberately pressed the trigger, someone, somewhere was negligent!
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:37 am |
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I lived in Missouri for 18 months.
With the exception of St. Louis City (mostly) and Kansas City, the level of police training and associated competence in Missouri is just above that of Mississippi. A police job really IS a high school dropouts "job of choice" and it shows. The incident that got nationwide publicity on U-Tube last Spring is run-of-the-mill Missouri "policing" in action.
Thuggery or corruption, take your pick.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:58 pm |
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Selurcspi wrote: ALL unintentional discharges are negligence...if it goes bang for any reason other than you deliberately pressed the trigger, someone, somewhere was negligent! That's a fairly preposterous claim to make. Any number of natural or un-natural events devoid of human control could cause the firearm to fire.
I will agree that almost all unintentional discharges caused by human negligence though.
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Scott Hughes
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:03 pm |
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gyrfalcon wrote: Selurcspi wrote: ALL unintentional discharges are negligence...if it goes bang for any reason other than you deliberately pressed the trigger, someone, somewhere was negligent! That's a fairly preposterous claim to make. Any number of natural or un-natural events devoid of human control could cause the firearm to fire.I will agree that almost all unintentional discharges caused by human negligence though. Can you list them 
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Scott Hughes wrote: gyrfalcon wrote: Selurcspi wrote: ALL unintentional discharges are negligence...if it goes bang for any reason other than you deliberately pressed the trigger, someone, somewhere was negligent! That's a fairly preposterous claim to make. Any number of natural or un-natural events devoid of human control could cause the firearm to fire.I will agree that almost all unintentional discharges caused by human negligence though. Can you list them Gremlins
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There is a difference between unintentional and negligent.
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gyrfalcon
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:56 pm |
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Scott Hughes wrote: Can you list them I'm sure you can think of a few things...
Shock, Fatigue, Stress, Decay, Chemical Reactions, etc.
Is the maker of the 1911 negligent because the internal safeties in his firearm failed or were overcome by an un-natural force?
http://www.ajronline.org/cgi/content/full/178/5/1092
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:01 pm |
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huh?
Shock? perhaps except what was the user doing at the time?
Fatigue, Stress, Decay ... Remember the rule about a properly functioning firearm? Upkeep, maintenance, etc are the owner's responsibility. Lack of same is negligence.
The MRI case? You mean the gun owner who took a GIANT hunk of metal into close proximity with a MAGNETIC RESONANCE IMAGER which could pull a ball point pen through denim jeans? I'm going to go with user error there too.
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