mine in 13 calendar days...........

All good things come to the pure of heart ...


Not sure why Ttousi got a pass though

Well I did my renewal today with only a couple of bobbles. They have the permit renewal window in the 'detention' area. I went in and told the mall ninja at the desk that I was renewing my permit to carry. He asked me to empty my pockets into the tray to go through the metal detector. First thing out is my pistol. He got kind of bug-eyed and asked if I wanted to leave it in the car, to which I replied that it was far too likely to get stolen, so I was much more comfortable carrying it.

At that point he had the sense to call a senior mall ninja who called a deputy to lock the guns up. He told me later that he had literally never seen anyone (other than a cop) bring a gun in, so he had no idea what to do.

It occurs to me that in order to avoid wasting the officers' time, they might want to have the permit renewal window in a non-'detention' area of the building.

It's not by accident; it's another deliberate hassle imposed on citizens (you know, along with the 30% bogus denials...).

Did they demand to see originals as well as copies of the documents? That's one of their favorite illegal tactics to hassle applicants.

Not to mention they might not allow you in the booking/detention area if prisoners are present. That's what the told my in Lakeville when we had to go to booking to do my prints since there's nowhere else in the PDthat was setup for prints.

well i'm here now snip snip

I'll be Gertrude

Mall Ninja! Good one! Pretty sure that detention area or not we won't be able to carry at any Sheriff's Dept building....just common sense I guess.

That's not common sense. It's not even legal.
624.714

I gotta agree. To me it makes make much more sense to read, understand, and follow the law.

Sorry if this has been answered; Aren't Sheriff departments special because they are located in Court Houses? I'm pretty sure I can't carry into the Wright County Sheriff's office to do any business for this reason. I'm pretty sure there's a note about it at the entrance too.

Of course I could just be in need of education. (BTW, Wright County Sheriff Gary Miller is very professional -- my permit process took a little over a week.)

JimO

First, not all of them are in courthouses.

Second, they aren't special, but a few judges have decided that they are special and can override the law at their whim, and include everything connected to their courtroom in their "courtroom" and issue judicial decrees saying carry was bad in their "courtroom".

Of course it makes sense to read, understand and follow the law which anyone having a permit to carry should have already done.
624.714 subd17 lists 609.531 (e) "Appropriate agency" means the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, the Minnesota
Division of Driver and Vehicle Services, the Minnesota State Patrol, a county sheriff's department,
the Three Rivers Park District park rangers, the Department of Natural Resources Division of
Enforcement, the University of Minnesota Police Department, the Department of Corrections'
Fugitive Apprehension Unit, or a city or airport police department.
AND pretty sure there is a security guard (mall ninja) of some sort at every entrance that lets us know they are not allowed. (ii) the requester or the requester's agent personally informs the person that guns are
prohibited in the premises and demands compliance.

translation: despite anything to the contrary in 609.531, the gun is NOT subject to forfeiture

Which has NOTHING to do with possession in a Sherrif's office.

So you read 609.531, but somehow missed 624.714, subd(17)?



Subd(17) doesn't apply to government offices. and 609.531 applies only to forfeitures, which, in this context, also do not apply.