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someone1980
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Post subject: Church of the Revolver Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:58 pm |
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joelr wrote: someone1980 wrote: And thus my love for pocket carry and J-Frames. Amen. While there's some of the shoot-em-up-training-SWAT-wannabes who look down on either or both ("How are you going to do a Speed Rock from your pocket?") they're really, really missing the point.
I feel like there should be an alter call or something... maybe a coming out party.
Thanks Joel for converting me.
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glock+ipod
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Post subject: Re: Church of the Revolver Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:52 pm |
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someone1980 wrote: joelr wrote: someone1980 wrote: And thus my love for pocket carry and J-Frames. Amen. While there's some of the shoot-em-up-training-SWAT-wannabes who look down on either or both ("How are you going to do a Speed Rock from your pocket?") they're really, really missing the point. I feel like there should be an alter call or something... maybe a coming out party. Thanks Joel for converting me.
So if I feel the need to carry a pocket-holstered j-frame as well as a more traditionally holstered semiauto, does that make me a polytheist?
_________________ Sliced bread? Nah. <a href=http://www.corneredcat.com/Basics/stance.aspx>Modern Isosceles</a>!
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hammAR
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:39 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:54 pm Posts: 1941 Location: N 44°56.621` W 093°11.256 (St Paul)
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Only if it is a 1911..........................
all others are just fraternities and worshipers of plastic idols!
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goalie
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:39 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:48 pm Posts: 429 Location: Minnetonka
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hammAR wrote: Only if it is a 1911.......................... all others are just fraternities and worshipers of plastic idols!
At least my plastic idol doesn't have a safety.
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hammAR
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:10 am |
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Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:54 pm Posts: 1941 Location: N 44°56.621` W 093°11.256 (St Paul)
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Consider it an ON/OFF switch..........all good tools have one!
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goalie
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:35 am |
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Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:48 pm Posts: 429 Location: Minnetonka
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hammAR wrote: Consider it an ON/OFF switch..........all good tools have one!
You won't ever catch me carrying a tool with that switch unless it's a long-gun, and then that switch will be permenantly stuck on FIRE.
I got lucky enough to live through the first mistake I made with a safety selector switch, and I don't plan on seeing if I can be that lucky a second time, especially considering that I was much better trained back then that I ever will be again.
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lumbering.buffalo
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Post subject: It didn't take long for this thread to get off topic! Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:51 am |
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This topic can be summarized as: Are small sized revolvers a viable tool for self-defence? Joel and Someone1980 say yes. I agree. I feel plenty armed with my 642 in a pocket holster.
We are in the business of defending ourselves, not being SWAT wanna-be's (thanks Joel). Most of our encounters will be the 1 - 4 person group of thugs.
If things change I'll adjust.
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hammAR
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:11 am |
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Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:54 pm Posts: 1941 Location: N 44°56.621` W 093°11.256 (St Paul)
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Even though I am a 1911 fanatic, Joel did convince me of the validity of the small pocket wheel gun. Thus, especially in the winter, I carry one in my left coat pocket (and Goalie it doesn't have an ON/OFF switch ) thus no need for gloves or worry about drawing from under thick, bulky clothes.....so yes I have had a drink of the koolaid.......
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:20 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:43 am Posts: 7970 Location: Minneapolis MN
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hammAR wrote: Even though I am a 1911 fanatic, Joel did convince me of the validity of the small pocket wheel gun. I love it when a plan comes together.
_________________ Just a guy.
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Srigs
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:15 am |
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hammAR wrote: Only if it is a 1911.......................... all others are just fraternities and worshipers of plastic idols!
I worship both plastic and metal semi's so the best of both worlds!
I do want to get a small wheel gun when the right one comes along. At the last gun show, I almost picked up a SS Smith with a bobed hammer with some great looking grips. I'll see if it is at the Hastings Armory on Saturday.
I just traded my K-frame 4" for a SXS but so my father-in-law had a good winter carry gun! He liked it so much he qualified with it.
_________________ Srigs
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"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking" - George S. Patton
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JDR
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Post subject: Re: It didn't take long for this thread to get off topic! Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:45 am |
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lumbering.buffalo wrote: This topic can be summarized as: Are small sized revolvers a viable tool for self-defence? Joel and Someone1980 say yes. I agree. I feel plenty armed with my 642 in a pocket holster.
We are in the business of defending ourselves, not being SWAT wanna-be's (thanks Joel). Most of our encounters will be the 1 - 4 person group of thugs. If things change I'll adjust.
Let's see,.....Up to 4 targets, revolver with five rounds,........
When you're practicing for your worst case senerio,.....
You most be a fantastic shot.
_________________ "To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason
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lumbering.buffalo
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Post subject: Re: It didn't take long for this thread to get off topic! Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:55 am |
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JDR wrote: Let's see,.....Up to 4 targets, revolver with five rounds,........ When you're practicing for your worst case senerio,..... You most be a fantastic shot.
My hope is that IF I have to draw, all 4 of them will see the gun and decide to find easier pickings.
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JDR
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Post subject: Re: It didn't take long for this thread to get off topic! Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:14 am |
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lumbering.buffalo wrote: JDR wrote: Let's see,.....Up to 4 targets, revolver with five rounds,........ When you're practicing for your worst case senerio,..... You most be a fantastic shot. My hope is that IF I have to draw, all 4 of them will see the gun and decide to find easier pickings.
Ah, you practice hoping, now I get it.
_________________ "To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:29 am |
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A pocket revolver is a very valid idea. It's a great tool but that doesn';t mean it has to be the ONLY tool.
I like a pocket revolver. It works almost any time and makes a good supplement to my XD-9 semi. Better than nothing for sure, and after talking about it with HammAR a great backup / access gun in the winter when the layers might make getting to a strong side IWB more obvious / ominous / difficult.
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joelr
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Post subject: Re: It didn't take long for this thread to get off topic! Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:24 pm |
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JDR wrote: lumbering.buffalo wrote: JDR wrote: Let's see,.....Up to 4 targets, revolver with five rounds,........ When you're practicing for your worst case senerio,..... You most be a fantastic shot. My hope is that IF I have to draw, all 4 of them will see the gun and decide to find easier pickings. Ah, you practice hoping, now I get it. Me, too. That said, I've spent quite a lot of time looking for real-life examples of survivable civilian self-defense shootings where five rounds wasn't enough. I've found a grand total of one.
_________________ Just a guy.
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