How much "jamming" is normal?
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RalphieRoo
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Post subject: How much "jamming" is normal? Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:18 pm |
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Hey all,
I recently purchased a new Ruger SP-95 9mm. Have taken it to the range twice, putting 100 rounds through each time (cleaned in between). Having no prior experience with semiautos I am wondering how often I should expect a gun like this to jam?
I would say it jammed 4 or 5 times. So, we're looking at a 5% jam rate. No big deal - all I have to do is pull the slide back and release. It ejects the jammed ammo and loads a new one.
Is this normal? I know this gun was on the low-end price wise. Do people have better results with other semiautos? Will it get better over time
Thanks!
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MTinMN
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:26 pm |
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I have put about 400 rounds through my KelTec p11 9mm. In that I had 1 jam, which was in the first 20 rounds, and I believe my fault for "limp-wristing".
5% is too high, in my opinion.
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mrokern
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:35 pm |
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WAY too high. My Beretta is at least at 2000 rounds without a malfunction.
Limp wristing is a possibility. So is ammo. What type of ammunition were you using?
-Mark
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:37 pm |
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New or Used gun?
Break In period or not?
Range Gun or Carry Gun?
After the break in period on a new gun for carry, way too high.
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zimme71
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:42 pm |
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I have put about 600 rounds through my Springfield Sub-Compact XD 40, and have yet to have any misfeeds/jams, etc. And honestly, I am surprised, since I have tried several brands of ammo, from the cheap stuff to more expensive stuff. So 5% seems high....but again, it could be the ammo you were using. Try a different brand, or several brands. Btw, what were you using?
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jdege
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Post subject: Re: How much "jamming" is normal? Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:52 pm |
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RalphieRoo wrote: Hey all, I recently purchased a new Ruger SP-95 9mm. Have taken it to the range twice, putting 100 rounds through each time (cleaned in between). Having no prior experience with semiautos I am wondering how often I should expect a gun like this to jam?
My take is simple - I won't carry a handgun unless I've fired two hundred rounds, of the specific type I intend to carry in it, through it in a single session without a single misfire.
Target, plinking, cowboy action, whatever. I might tolerate an occasional misfire. In a carry piece, I will not.
That said, I'm on my third carry piece, and not one of them, even the cheap KelTec P-11, failed to pass my test. (Though shooting 200 rounds of JHP through the P-11 was quite painful, after a while, every round fired.)
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mnglocker
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:06 pm |
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Cleaning too often?
Too much oil on the slide and barrel causing excessive fouling?...
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MNBud
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:24 pm |
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For a new gun and if you are new to semi autos, I would give it a good work out before I started to be concerned. I would,as others have stated insure that it is more reliable than that before it became my carry gun. After a good break in period buy some high end carry ammo and insure that it is 100% reliable before you trust your life on it.
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nmat
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:29 pm |
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plblark wrote: New or Used gun? Break In period or not? Range Gun or Carry Gun?
After the break in period on a new gun for carry, way too high.
On my springfield XD-9, I've put at least 2000 rounds thru it, one during the break-in period, and one at the range last time, but that was because my girlfriend was seriously limp-wristing it.
A 5% jam rate in a carry gun is absolutely unacceptable to me. The LAST thing I want to worry about is clearing a jam while in a fight for my life. Even for just a range gun, it would upset me.
If your gun is new, I'd attribute this to the break-in period. Keep your wrists firm, and see what happens next time.
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montana_redneck
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:14 pm |
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nmat wrote: but that was because my girlfriend was seriously limp-wristing it.
sorry... couldn't resist!
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nmat
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:26 pm |
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montana_redneck wrote: nmat wrote: but that was because my girlfriend was seriously limp-wristing it. sorry... couldn't resist!
Smarta$$. LOL
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dmr-22
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:33 pm |
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Last year I was wondering if I could jam my glock 35 (Range Only) so I stopped cleaning it. I would estimate I’m at about 7000 rounds. I’ll let you know if it ever jams.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:53 pm |
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jdege
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:46 pm |
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MNBud wrote: For a new gun and if you are new to semi autos, I would give it a good work out before I started to be concerned.
Good point.
A lot of semis need a break-in period, before the feed ramp, etc., are fully burnished and smooth.
And, of course, a lot of shooters who are new to semis take a while to learn not to limp-wrist.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:59 pm |
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