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 How much "jamming" is normal? 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:18 pm 
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Hey all,
I recently purchased a new Ruger SP-95 9mm. Have taken it to the range twice, putting 100 rounds through each time (cleaned in between). Having no prior experience with semiautos I am wondering how often I should expect a gun like this to jam?

I would say it jammed 4 or 5 times. So, we're looking at a 5% jam rate. No big deal - all I have to do is pull the slide back and release. It ejects the jammed ammo and loads a new one.

Is this normal? I know this gun was on the low-end price wise. Do people have better results with other semiautos? Will it get better over time :?:

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I have put about 400 rounds through my KelTec p11 9mm. In that I had 1 jam, which was in the first 20 rounds, and I believe my fault for "limp-wristing".

5% is too high, in my opinion.


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WAY too high. My Beretta is at least at 2000 rounds without a malfunction.

Limp wristing is a possibility. So is ammo. What type of ammunition were you using?

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New or Used gun?
Break In period or not?
Range Gun or Carry Gun?

After the break in period on a new gun for carry, way too high.

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I have put about 600 rounds through my Springfield Sub-Compact XD 40, and have yet to have any misfeeds/jams, etc. And honestly, I am surprised, since I have tried several brands of ammo, from the cheap stuff to more expensive stuff. So 5% seems high....but again, it could be the ammo you were using. Try a different brand, or several brands. Btw, what were you using?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:52 pm 
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Hey all,
I recently purchased a new Ruger SP-95 9mm. Have taken it to the range twice, putting 100 rounds through each time (cleaned in between). Having no prior experience with semiautos I am wondering how often I should expect a gun like this to jam?

My take is simple - I won't carry a handgun unless I've fired two hundred rounds, of the specific type I intend to carry in it, through it in a single session without a single misfire.

Target, plinking, cowboy action, whatever. I might tolerate an occasional misfire. In a carry piece, I will not.

That said, I'm on my third carry piece, and not one of them, even the cheap KelTec P-11, failed to pass my test. (Though shooting 200 rounds of JHP through the P-11 was quite painful, after a while, every round fired.)


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Cleaning too often?

Too much oil on the slide and barrel causing excessive fouling?... :idea:

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For a new gun and if you are new to semi autos, I would give it a good work out before I started to be concerned. I would,as others have stated insure that it is more reliable than that before it became my carry gun. After a good break in period buy some high end carry ammo and insure that it is 100% reliable before you trust your life on it.

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plblark wrote:
New or Used gun?
Break In period or not?
Range Gun or Carry Gun?

After the break in period on a new gun for carry, way too high.


On my springfield XD-9, I've put at least 2000 rounds thru it, one during the break-in period, and one at the range last time, but that was because my girlfriend was seriously limp-wristing it.

A 5% jam rate in a carry gun is absolutely unacceptable to me. The LAST thing I want to worry about is clearing a jam while in a fight for my life. Even for just a range gun, it would upset me.

If your gun is new, I'd attribute this to the break-in period. Keep your wrists firm, and see what happens next time.

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nmat wrote:
but that was because my girlfriend was seriously limp-wristing it.

:shock: sorry... couldn't resist!


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nmat wrote:
but that was because my girlfriend was seriously limp-wristing it.

:shock: sorry... couldn't resist!


Smarta$$. LOL :roll:

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Last year I was wondering if I could jam my glock 35 (Range Only) so I stopped cleaning it. I would estimate I’m at about 7000 rounds. I’ll let you know if it ever jams.

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Bring it to Burnsville on Sunday afternoon, with a box of ammo. I'll shoot it up for you, and we'll see whether it's the gun or the wrist.

Yes, I'm a giver. :)

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MNBud wrote:
For a new gun and if you are new to semi autos, I would give it a good work out before I started to be concerned.

Good point.

A lot of semis need a break-in period, before the feed ramp, etc., are fully burnished and smooth.

And, of course, a lot of shooters who are new to semis take a while to learn not to limp-wrist.


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Wait a sec... There is no SP-95. Is it a P-95 or an SR-9?

If it's an SR-9, it's subject to a recall -- http://www.ruger.com/SR9Recall/ -- and if it's a P95, it's pretty unlikely that the problem is the gun. :)

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