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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:18 pm 
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Anybody here ever shot these or know anything about them?


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Hmm well there is no jacket to seperate from the lead when it expands.

Not sure why I would want one. Fouling of the barrel? Eh other places need a good scrubbing first.


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Musky at Joe's Sporting Goods was telling me that straight lead is actually easier on barrels than jacketed ammo. I don't know if I believe that, though.


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Ya...

Lead is softer, but builds up more. Copper is pretty soft and with a lead core still has room to flex.

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It doesn't help that it was said right after I was looking at a box of Ultramax (remanufactured) with solid lead projectiles and bulging cases that looked just awful. It's $6 a box for a reason.

edit: Are there any decent lead practice rounds?


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It's a lot like the Barnes X bullet in Cor-Bon DPX ammo, which I read lots of good stuff about. I've been thinking of trying some in .357, partly 'cause they're supposed to work well, and partly 'cause I'd feel more comfortable not having the bare lead on the semi-jacketed Remington hollowpoints I carry right now, rubbing up against the Rolaids and everything else in my pocket.


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Pat Cannon wrote:
I'd feel more comfortable not having the bare lead on the semi-jacketed Remington hollowpoints I carry right now, rubbing up against the Rolaids


Hmm that explains the picture a little. ;)

Do you think you should get tested for lead?


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Solid copper is awesome. You can get some serious expansion that really holds together well. I pulled this out of my deer last year:

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Only $.85 a round.

Still, it's worth it for humanitarian reasons. If you have to shoot an assailant, you don't want them to get lead poisoning. :)

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Andrew Rothman wrote:
Only $.85 a round.

Still, it's worth it for humanitarian reasons. If you have to shoot an assailant, you don't want them to get lead poisoning. :)


Evan Marshall over at stoppingpower.net only carries DPX now. Because it has expanded more and deap penetration than any round he has looked at!

Lead poisoning is a problem for BGs... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Lead is easier on a bbl - but dirtier - and does build p and needs to be cleaned

You cannot afford to shoot enough of that solid copper stuff to worry about wearing your gun out.

The only lead practice 9mm that I have seen is remanufactured stuff - it has been a loong time since I have seen lead ammo loaded factory fresh.

You are going to have a hell of a time wearing out a pistol bbl - you may foul it up pretty good - but that is easily removed.

Stick to regular JHP's unless you can afford $0.85 each for practice ammunition. I have yet to meet a solid copper bullet that can do what the RA9TA's can do.


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Ah that also reminds me, as for all lead, I don't want to be messing with that stuff. Put a coat or jacket of copper on the lead and I am all good.

So with copper pricing going so high, it might be a good investment to start stockpiling copper bullets now. ;)


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Copper prices are so high, my wife's nutty uncle is trying to get a copper mine built up on the iron range. http://www.startribune.com/462/story/881880.html

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Srigs wrote:
Andrew Rothman wrote:
Only $.85 a round.

Still, it's worth it for humanitarian reasons. If you have to shoot an assailant, you don't want them to get lead poisoning. :)


Evan Marshall over at stoppingpower.net only carries DPX now. Because it has expanded more and deap penetration than any round he has looked at!

Lead poisoning is a problem for BGs... :lol: :lol: :lol:


John Farnam is a police & military trainer. He's *really* impressed with the Cor-Bon DPX ammunition, both in rifle and pistol calibers. I'll buy some if/when I can find it, just for grins.

It's probably a bit expensive to thoroughly test one's carry gun by sending a couple hundred rounds downrange but that's what ought'a be done.

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Pat Cannon wrote:
I'd feel more comfortable not having the bare lead on the semi-jacketed Remington hollowpoints I carry right now, rubbing up against the Rolaids


Hmm that explains the picture a little. ;)

Do you think you should get tested for lead?
Actually the picture has more to do with beer than with lead. I've been meaning to get tested just in case, actually, but I'm not too worried about it as I don't reload, I try to was my hands after shooting, and I've only been carrying the speedloader in my pants pocket for a few weeks. And I'm not noticeably stupider than I was when I was young. Though now that I think about it, I really should be striving for a higher standard than that.


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