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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:42 am 
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I highly doubt this will have any impact on actual crime, just another nail in the coffin of the law abiding gun owner.

http://www.redding.com/news/2009/oct/12 ... ales-bill/


Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today signed into law a bill that requires buyers of handgun ammunition to leave thumbprints and detailed personal information with registered ammo sellers, as well as put restrictions on online bullet sales.

“Assembly Bill 962 reasonably regulates access to ammunition and improves public safety without placing undue burdens on consumers,” Schwarzenegger said in a letter explaining his decision.

The new restrictions will take effect Feb. 1, 2011.

Authored by Assemblyman Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, the bill bans direct shipping to Californians who buy bullets via mail order or over the Internet.

Instead, any ammo they buy would need to be picked up at a licensed handgun ammunition dealer, similar to the way guns are currently bought and sold.

The bill doesn’t require a waiting period to pick up ammunition as there is when purchasing firearms. All handgun ammunition must be kept behind store counters.

Ammunition that can be used in both pistols and rifles — like the popular .22 caliber round used by target shooters and small game hunters — fall under the new restrictions.

The bill also would require that those purchasing ammunition provide photo ID and a thumbprint.

The information would be kept on file and made available to law enforcement agencies.

Around a dozen gang-plagued cities in California have enacted similar local ordinances, geared to keep gang members from buying ammunition or tracking them down when they do.

De Leon spokesman Dan Reeves has said the local laws have helped police track down 200 criminals who bought handgun ammunition. Some were drug dealers and many had large caches of illegal guns or explosives.

Under the law, anyone who knowingly sells handgun ammunition to a felon would be committing a misdemeanor. The law also would make it a misdemeanor for documented gang members to possess handgun ammunition.

The bill has been criticized by gun rights advocates, online ammunition retailers and Republicans.

John Moffett, a clerk at Jones’ Fort gun store in Redding, said today that the bill will put an extra regulatory hurdle on consumers and ammunition dealers.

“It’s going to be a hassle on both ends,” Moffett said.

Though Schwarzenegger vetoed a similar bill in 2004, saying the federal government’s attempt at similar legislation proved to be “unworkable and offered no public safety benefit,” the governor today said that De Leon’s bill struck a fair balance between public safety and didn’t put undue burdens on bullet vendors and firearms dealers.

Reporter Ryan Sabalow can be reached at 225-8344 or at rsabalow@redding.com.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:23 am 
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The bill has been criticized by gun rights advocates, online ammunition retailers and Republicans.


Except Shwarzenegger, that is.

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Yeah, but I'll bet she gets her thumb all inky when she goes to buy ammo.

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Though Schwarzenegger vetoed a similar bill in 2004, saying the federal government’s attempt at similar legislation proved to be “unworkable and offered no public safety benefit,” the governor today said that De Leon’s bill struck a fair balance between public safety and didn’t put undue burdens on bullet vendors and firearms dealers.


How about the undue burden on the American Citizen?

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I find this hard to believe.....oh wait, nope, I can believe it. Another run on ammo? :?:

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Now is the time to open an ammunition retail facility in Reno, Carson City, or Lake Havasu, with massive billboards proclaiming same in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and lest we forget, Daly City. :lol:


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so basically this can apply to almost all ammo sales.

anything used in a handgun, so that could include alot of regular rifle cartridges. think thompson center handguns.

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hypocrite!

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Now is the time to open an ammunition retail facility in Reno, Carson City, or Lake Havasu, with massive billboards proclaiming same in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and lest we forget, Daly City. :lol:

If I lived in AZ or NV near the CA border, you can be sure I'd be opening a ammo store.

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I read yesterday that the Gov's poll numbers are like 27% (and dropping like a rock). I think soon enough we can say goodbye and goodridance ARNIE :!: 8) :evil:

CA. will be able to stop all the blackmarket ammo coming in to the US on the backs of border jumpers; just like they're stopping the drugs......yea rignt :roll:

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Instead of a thumbprint, I would like to see a footprint on his ass!


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I would imagine that this is the result of Gov. Arnold sleeping with a Kennedy.

This country is turning left with so much force that I feel I am in a NASCAR race.


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I would imagine that this is the result of Gov. Arnold sleeping with a Kennedy.

This country is turning left with so much force that I feel I am in a NASCAR race.



go fast and turn left. thats all there is to it. no wonder we have so many liberals ruining things.

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